Zigg
02-22-2005, 08:48 PM
LOKI TORRENT LAWSUIT :: A HOAX
Written by: SharePro
At the end of December 2004, the RIAA and MPAA began an international rampage in efforts to close down major bit torrent and ed2k file sharing sites.
Some sites like Suprnova.org, Youceff.com, ShareTv.com, and others went down without a fight while other sites, including ShareConnector and Releases4U were closed down by authorities.
The lawsuits set off a wide spread of panic and dismay within the p2p community as many of the veteran ed2k and torrent contributing society soon found themselves "homless" and their works "dead".
During the turmoil, one such MPAA targeted Bit Torrent site claimed it was willing to stand up against the evil powers of motion picture media thugs by fighting the lawyers in a court of law. LokiTorrent.com began accepting donations from the p2p community to support what they called "necessary legal fee's".
According to Slyck.com - January 3, 2005 (http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=634) (Slyck was obviously manipulated into promoting Loki Torrent), within two weeks (5 days public) of announcing their fund raising campaign, Loki Torrents is only $710.00 dollars away from reaching their initial goal. At the time of this writing, Loki Torrent has raised an impressive $29,290.00.
Today, just weeks after the initial Slyck.com interview with Edward Webber, owner of LokiTorrent.com, the entire p2p file share community is back in turmoil.
A) Are the logs of Lokitorrent.com in the hands of the MPAA?
B) Where is the money that was donated to the legal fund?
As the writing of this article began to gain momentum, many inconsistencies began arising that clearly show that Lokitorrent is not in the hands of the MPAA (At least not because of a court order), nor we're the owners fined a million dollars.
1) LokiTorrent never provided the name or details of any lawyer representing the site or the p2p community so it is assumed that no such lawyer or law firm ever existed.
2) During the same time that Loki was making an tens of thousands of dollars monthly via legal donations, the owners of Loki Torrent were also actively trying to sell the domain. LokiTorrent.com for Sale :: Sedo.com (http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?domain=lokitorrent.com&language=us)
In effort to convince p2p'rs to continue donating and not to believe Loki's intent to sell, this is what the owner published in his defense:
Loki Torrent's Selling on Sedo.com :: Explanation (http://216.109.117.135/search/cache?p=loki+torrent+sedo&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&u=www.lokitorrent.com/index.php&w=loki+torrent+sedo&d=89BB6D6952&icp=1&.intl=us)
If some guy offers me $75K for the domain name, he's more than welcome to it, and I'll simply move the site to a different domain. Selling the entire site will never happen. I have way too much of myself in this site to sell it for any price (well, 2 million could get me to part with it, lol.. but let's live in reality).
3) The only reports of this so-called "law suit" are based entirely on the front page of the LokiTorrent.com internet site. The MPAA and Texas Federal Court has no public record nor are they willing to back up Lokitorrent claims of being ordered to hand over webserver ip logs and pay a 1 million dollar penalty. Even J. Borland of News.com received his information by simply calling the owner of Lokitorrent at telephone number , a Mr. Ed Webber, and speaking to him directly at telephone number (207) 752-3481.
4) Was LokiTorrent ever actually sued by the MPAA? According to
News.com (http://news.com.com/Court+Hollywood+gets+P2P+giants+server+logs/2100-1025_3-5571782.html), Loki was sued in Dallas, Texas federal court. A quick search to Texas Court Records (http://www.txnd.uscourts.gov/) DOES NOT reveal any court appearances or cases filed on behalf of the MPAA and/or Edward Webber, owner of Loki Torrent.
If LokiTorrent.com had been sued in Dallas Federal Courts, then some type of public record would appear. NO ONLINE RECORD APPEARS WHATSOEVER! ( Texas Court Search Engine (http://www.txnd.uscourts.gov/) )
5) While writing this report, a quick WHOIS for the ownership information of LokiTorrent.com reveals the following info:
Domain Name: lokitorrent.com IP: 216.32.85.114
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact, Technical Contact:
Webber, E admin@webbsense.com
WebbSense
PO Box 7662
Portland, ME 04112
US
Phone: +1.2077523481
Why would the owner Edward Webber of LokiTorrent.com still appear as owner and administrator of Loki Torrent if in fact the MPAA had taken over the site?
A fast ping / traceroute to the MPAA's official website reveals that the hosting IP address of the MPAA's official site to be 66.252.129.187 while the IP address of Lokitorrent is currently 216.32.85.114. The IP's review 2 entirely different hosting locations.
Loki Torrent is not hosted on the MPAA's network, thus the front page warning p2p'rs against file sharing currently posted at LOKITORRENT.COM is a HOAX. Lokitorrent.com is hosted in Washington DC at the ISP "SAWIS" while the MPAA is hosted just South of Glendale, California by Ware.Net (http://ware.net/)
6) In there ongoing efforts to prevent file sharing, The RIAA / MPAA have become notorious for publishing the names and addresses of file shares and webmasters who they sue. The MPAA has not mentioned one single word in any public news release. Official MPAA Internet Site :: Press Releases (http://mpaa.org/MPAAPress/)
While writing this article, it soon became very apparent that webserver logs had not been ordered by any judge or jury of our peers to be surrendered to the MPAA. No judge had ordered a million dollar penalty via Dallas courts.
As one top Texas lawyer kindly put it: "Dallas courts have no presidence in this case because Lokitorrent.com was never hosted on Texas ISP servers. The owner of Lokitorrent is not a resident of Texas, and the MPAA's main offices are not in Texas. The MPAA has no reason in the world to sue in Dallas, but even if they did have presidence and sued in Dallas, you can be sure that the due dilligence on a case like this would take years. No way in the world could the MPAA have won a court case of this magnitude in just one month"
"It seems that the owner of LokiTorrent decided to take the donation money and run, and to cover his tracks, scare the hell out of the entire p2p community. The scare tactic was probably nothing but a decoy to convince intelligent people not to ask the right questions". - Anonymous Filesharer
Source: http://earthreactor.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=2146#2146
Written by: SharePro
At the end of December 2004, the RIAA and MPAA began an international rampage in efforts to close down major bit torrent and ed2k file sharing sites.
Some sites like Suprnova.org, Youceff.com, ShareTv.com, and others went down without a fight while other sites, including ShareConnector and Releases4U were closed down by authorities.
The lawsuits set off a wide spread of panic and dismay within the p2p community as many of the veteran ed2k and torrent contributing society soon found themselves "homless" and their works "dead".
During the turmoil, one such MPAA targeted Bit Torrent site claimed it was willing to stand up against the evil powers of motion picture media thugs by fighting the lawyers in a court of law. LokiTorrent.com began accepting donations from the p2p community to support what they called "necessary legal fee's".
According to Slyck.com - January 3, 2005 (http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=634) (Slyck was obviously manipulated into promoting Loki Torrent), within two weeks (5 days public) of announcing their fund raising campaign, Loki Torrents is only $710.00 dollars away from reaching their initial goal. At the time of this writing, Loki Torrent has raised an impressive $29,290.00.
Today, just weeks after the initial Slyck.com interview with Edward Webber, owner of LokiTorrent.com, the entire p2p file share community is back in turmoil.
A) Are the logs of Lokitorrent.com in the hands of the MPAA?
B) Where is the money that was donated to the legal fund?
As the writing of this article began to gain momentum, many inconsistencies began arising that clearly show that Lokitorrent is not in the hands of the MPAA (At least not because of a court order), nor we're the owners fined a million dollars.
1) LokiTorrent never provided the name or details of any lawyer representing the site or the p2p community so it is assumed that no such lawyer or law firm ever existed.
2) During the same time that Loki was making an tens of thousands of dollars monthly via legal donations, the owners of Loki Torrent were also actively trying to sell the domain. LokiTorrent.com for Sale :: Sedo.com (http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?domain=lokitorrent.com&language=us)
In effort to convince p2p'rs to continue donating and not to believe Loki's intent to sell, this is what the owner published in his defense:
Loki Torrent's Selling on Sedo.com :: Explanation (http://216.109.117.135/search/cache?p=loki+torrent+sedo&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&u=www.lokitorrent.com/index.php&w=loki+torrent+sedo&d=89BB6D6952&icp=1&.intl=us)
If some guy offers me $75K for the domain name, he's more than welcome to it, and I'll simply move the site to a different domain. Selling the entire site will never happen. I have way too much of myself in this site to sell it for any price (well, 2 million could get me to part with it, lol.. but let's live in reality).
3) The only reports of this so-called "law suit" are based entirely on the front page of the LokiTorrent.com internet site. The MPAA and Texas Federal Court has no public record nor are they willing to back up Lokitorrent claims of being ordered to hand over webserver ip logs and pay a 1 million dollar penalty. Even J. Borland of News.com received his information by simply calling the owner of Lokitorrent at telephone number , a Mr. Ed Webber, and speaking to him directly at telephone number (207) 752-3481.
4) Was LokiTorrent ever actually sued by the MPAA? According to
News.com (http://news.com.com/Court+Hollywood+gets+P2P+giants+server+logs/2100-1025_3-5571782.html), Loki was sued in Dallas, Texas federal court. A quick search to Texas Court Records (http://www.txnd.uscourts.gov/) DOES NOT reveal any court appearances or cases filed on behalf of the MPAA and/or Edward Webber, owner of Loki Torrent.
If LokiTorrent.com had been sued in Dallas Federal Courts, then some type of public record would appear. NO ONLINE RECORD APPEARS WHATSOEVER! ( Texas Court Search Engine (http://www.txnd.uscourts.gov/) )
5) While writing this report, a quick WHOIS for the ownership information of LokiTorrent.com reveals the following info:
Domain Name: lokitorrent.com IP: 216.32.85.114
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact, Technical Contact:
Webber, E admin@webbsense.com
WebbSense
PO Box 7662
Portland, ME 04112
US
Phone: +1.2077523481
Why would the owner Edward Webber of LokiTorrent.com still appear as owner and administrator of Loki Torrent if in fact the MPAA had taken over the site?
A fast ping / traceroute to the MPAA's official website reveals that the hosting IP address of the MPAA's official site to be 66.252.129.187 while the IP address of Lokitorrent is currently 216.32.85.114. The IP's review 2 entirely different hosting locations.
Loki Torrent is not hosted on the MPAA's network, thus the front page warning p2p'rs against file sharing currently posted at LOKITORRENT.COM is a HOAX. Lokitorrent.com is hosted in Washington DC at the ISP "SAWIS" while the MPAA is hosted just South of Glendale, California by Ware.Net (http://ware.net/)
6) In there ongoing efforts to prevent file sharing, The RIAA / MPAA have become notorious for publishing the names and addresses of file shares and webmasters who they sue. The MPAA has not mentioned one single word in any public news release. Official MPAA Internet Site :: Press Releases (http://mpaa.org/MPAAPress/)
While writing this article, it soon became very apparent that webserver logs had not been ordered by any judge or jury of our peers to be surrendered to the MPAA. No judge had ordered a million dollar penalty via Dallas courts.
As one top Texas lawyer kindly put it: "Dallas courts have no presidence in this case because Lokitorrent.com was never hosted on Texas ISP servers. The owner of Lokitorrent is not a resident of Texas, and the MPAA's main offices are not in Texas. The MPAA has no reason in the world to sue in Dallas, but even if they did have presidence and sued in Dallas, you can be sure that the due dilligence on a case like this would take years. No way in the world could the MPAA have won a court case of this magnitude in just one month"
"It seems that the owner of LokiTorrent decided to take the donation money and run, and to cover his tracks, scare the hell out of the entire p2p community. The scare tactic was probably nothing but a decoy to convince intelligent people not to ask the right questions". - Anonymous Filesharer
Source: http://earthreactor.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=2146#2146