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[reef]

IT'S ABOUT LOVE!

well here's how it goes. i'm in love (yeah i know it's a word that can't be easily tossed around but i'm <i>pretty</i> sure i can use it) with a girl who i'll more than likely never be with. i'm not bummed (not anymore but i used to be) but i'd like to you know <i>not</i> be in love with someone i'd never be with

ain't that a kick in the pants? what do you guys think a brotha should do? hookers? drugs? japanese dating sims?

[Awesome McManly]

male order bride.

whoops.

what I meant to say was, male order bride!

...

I'm not helping, am I? :(

[implode]

love her. love her until she loves you back, or until it tears you apart at the seams. it's worth it. you can't just decide not to be in love with someone - there's no way out of this. you could stop seeing her entirely, but if you're in as deep as you seem to be, it'll just make you long for her more. love her until it is not reasonably possible to do so anymore.

does she know?

[reef]

well i'm pretty sure she doesn't but i've never brought it up and really don't plan to in the future

see it was like i like her, i really like her, ok i more than really like her but i can't be in love with her cause that'd just be silly, then i gave in

but of course there are circumstances keeping me from telling her. right now it's just like yeah i love her but i'm pretty sure the feelings aren't the same so i'll just be as good a friend to her asi can possibly be and so far that's worked out

so right now it's just like "huh i love this girl. ok" and that's the mentality i keep so that i don't get angry or jealous or whatnoy. it's served me well so far

[implode]

so right now it's just like "huh i love this girl. ok" and that's the mentality i keep so that i don't get angry or jealous or whatnoy. wow. you are a stronger man than i. and you're right - with the acceptance of love, it's hard <i>not</i> to fall into the role of the jealous asshole who you can't believe you got together with in the first place. i dunno, man. sometimes i think it would have been better if i just did what you're doing, kept the feelings inside and didn't fuck up the friendship... but... i don't know. i think love is worth it. if the friendship was ever really there in the first place, it can survive the obstacle course of love.

but everybody needs a friend. so your course of action is probably good. she can tell, man - <i>they can always tell.</i> if she feels the same, or ever realizes in the future that she feels the same, you'll know. things will pan out. but. yeah. good luck, man. if it takes your mind off your troubles, <i>i'm sticky and need to get into the shower. mmm yeah. that's what imma do. after i peel my shirt from my bare skin.</i>

[reef]

well i <i>was</i> jealous and miserable but then i realized that i was become some sort of emo asshole and that's definatrely what i didn't want to be happening

plus this process took like a year so it wasn't easy

i cannot think of anything else to type because my mind has been preoccupied with implode in the shower

<i>lathering</i>

oh...oh god

[Takker]

it's me, isn't it?

but seriously, if you don't think she would return the feelings, then I wouldn't bring it up. things would just get awkward and that would make everything worse.

[reef]

yeah that was basically my whole gameplan

or you know wait till she's drunk and see if she tries to slip me some tongue

BUT THAT HAS YET TO HAPPEN

[Magenta]

right now it's just like yeah i love her but i'm pretty sure the feelings aren't the same so i'll just be as good a friend to her asi can possibly be and so far that's worked out

That's probably the best thing you can do. Coming from many long years of being female, I find it annoying when guys only like you because they want you to be their girlfriend this week.

If you are a really good friend and always there for her, then you have an actual foundation for a relationship.

I just wanna pinch your cheek because you seem so much sweeter than 90% of the guys I know. Well, you know...today you do. Heh.

[Awesome McManly]

Yeah!

It's not like girls have a hand in creating the vicious assholes they claim to hate, yet can't stop sleeping with.

[reef]

That's probably the best thing you can do. Coming from many long years of being female, I find it annoying when guys only like you because they want you to be their girlfriend this week.

If you are a really good friend and always there for her, then you have an actual foundation for a relationship.

I just wanna pinch your cheek because you seem so much sweeter than 90% of the guys I know. Well, you know...today you do. Heh.
hah

well you know even under my crunchy exterior lies a sweet sweet chocolate center

and plus under my sarcasm lies my nice side so i guess i'm doing something right if someone who doesn't like me thinks i'm being sweet

<i>score</i>

[deadish]

live alone avoid people and never answer the telephone like i do.

wait.




no don't do that.

[reef]

www.livejournal.com

and by that i mean hack live journal and put a message up that says you love her and be like HEY WHY DONT YOU CHECK YOUR LIVE JOURNAL to her
that's so crazy it just might work

well... it probably won't work but that doesn't make it any less crazy

wait i just remembered she doesn't have an lj

[reef]

lord knows i do

I CANNOT HELP THAT I THINK IT IS A NOVEL IDEA

[Dr. Badman]

The longer you keep it inside, the more it will build up - In future you'll either find yourself more hurt if she rejects you, or kicking yourself for not asking earlier if she IS interested.

Friends talk. Talk to her.

"Im just gonna ask because I need to know, but keep in mind that Im not going to let this affect our friendship. WILL U B MY G/F PLZ??"

Etc.

[Magenta]

well you know even under my crunchy exterior lies a sweet sweet chocolate center

*crunch* ... o.O *spit*


Oh, you meant METAPHORICALLY.



(don't listen to badman, even if he is a girl)

[reef]

yes badman that is a <i>horrible</i> idea

[Magenta]

Yeah, especially with the "keep in mind that Im not going to let this affect our friendship"... trust me, it WILL affect the relationship. If one of my guy friends suddenly said "HEY I LIKES YOU DO YOU WANT 2 B MY G/F?" no matter WHAT else he said it would make any of my slightly "my feelings" or "personal" converstions just...awkward.

It'd do more harm than good unless I felt the same.

[Dr. Badman]

Oh well.

Nearly sabotaged a relationship.

And I would have gotten away with it if it wasnt for that pink chick.

[Awesome McManly]

Yeah, especially with the "keep in mind that Im not going to let this affect our friendship"... trust me, it WILL affect the relationship. If one of my guy friends suddenly said "HEY I LIKES YOU DO YOU WANT 2 B MY G/F?" no matter WHAT else he said it would make any of my slightly "my feelings" or "personal" converstions just...awkward.

It'd do more harm than good unless I felt the same.

Selfish.

so you'd rather leave your "friend" in limbo, than deal with a week of feeling awkward? If he was really your friend, you'd see it as a means to get over you and move on.

[Magenta]

so you'd rather leave your "friend" in limbo, than deal with a week of feeling awkward? If he was really your friend, you'd see it as a means to get over you and move on.
No, it would make the relationship awkward and probably break down (or at least hurt) a good friendship.

I'd rather a guy make me know how he feels by how he acts.

[Dr. Badman]

A good friendship wouldnt break apart like that.

[Takker]

well, I found out one of my guy friends liked me a few years back, and I didn't like him and I unconsciously sorta distanced myself from him because I didn't want him to like me more. I mean, I feel bad for doing it, but at the same time, I kept thinking that if I spent all this time with him, he would just end up getting hurt. but then I moved away. problem solved.

[reef]

well this girl is all about not making things weird. i already told her i liked her last year but that was before my feelings grew. see i'm not gonna tell her i love her cause love is a big fuckin' word guys

[~V+]

I wanted a mail order bride.

then I saw something on the newws about them, how most of them are kidnapped prostitutes and stuff.

[MST3Kakalina]

Mecha says Japanese dating sims, definitely.

[tater]

tsk, tsk. so many people wanting to hide.

i was actually on the other end of such a thing not too long ago. one of my best friends in the world told me that she was in love with me. and yeah, i did sort of know before she told me. i thought she was incredibly brave and sweet to tell me. she took a chance, especially since it had long been established that i am very much heterosexual. i told her that she was my best friend and i cared about her very much, but i could only ever be her friend.

i know i hurt her. she was the one to pull away and it was a few months before i talked to her again. i was the equivalent of her maid of honor this past weekend in Toronto and we talk almost every day.

you should talk to her. things might get wierd if she doesn't feel the same, but if the friendship is true you'll pull through it. and it might be what you need to get over her. don't be so afraid of your feelings. the worst she can do is say no and wouldn't an answer, even a painful one, be better than limbo?

[Magenta]

it might be what you need to get over her
...the thing is, do you WANT to get over her?

I'd rather love and sacrifice for them and such until they either loved me back or pushed away than just openly admit it and have it become awkward.

But again, this is must my opinion. Reef needs to choose his.

[Young Jeff Bridges]

hi. i liked this girl who is a friend of mine for pretty much all of last year. after breaking down and telling another girl who ended up being very untrustworthy and telling girl no. 1, who just talked about how awkward it all was to all my other friends, who also happened to be her friends. eventually i got over it because i had bigger fish to fry/return to (hi best friend's girlfriend) but now we have a closer/stronger friendship than we ever did before. she & her fiance and i & my fiance are going on a road trip to get married and we tell each other everything like the little girls we are.

basically, my point is that very important confession which i support (because you never know the outcome, ignore magenta.) doesnt always end in horror if you guys dont end up getting together.
just dont tell her, if you do tell her, that you love her.
she will freak.

[reef]

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT GUYS

[Takker]

oh the torment! seriously, do what you think is best and don't listen to us because we're nerds on an zim board.

[Young Jeff Bridges]

she...
she has a point.

[reef]

you calling yourself a nerd jon

huh

cause i would

[Young Jeff Bridges]

you would call yourself a nerd?
gotcha.

[Magenta]

Takker's got us all there.

We can only give you advice based on our personal experiences. We do not know this girl or how she'll react. Only you can judge that.

Or maybe you can't. Let me rephrase: only you can make this decision.

[Dr. Badman]

His decision was to ask a Zim Message Board to help him make his decision...

[MST3Kakalina]

one time i had a thing for one of my guy friends. we got on so well that people thought we were going out already, and would tease us about being a couple. (never mind that he was a good three years younger than me). i think it was pretty obvious to him that i was interested, but things didn't turn awkward.


and then i met Mecha, and now the other kid is still a good friend.


i think that's relevant somehow. so yeah, anyway.

MOST USELESS REPLY EVER.

[Magenta]

His decision was to ask a Zim Message Board to help him make his decision...
His decision was to ask a group of people he had physically never met but had spent enough time talking to that he trusted (some of) their opinions.

Anyway, the thing about Koba's is that you never did come out and tell him did you? If not, then that's what I was talking about...showing your affection without just SAYING it.

[reef]

i was just asking for opinions i never said i'd act on them

sometimes i like to know how others react to situations i'm in

DO YOU SEE WHERE I AM COMING FROM BADMAN

[Caraopacha]

I like someone to (a big anime fan) and I only told my friends. I am afraid to tell her because I was afraid of what she might say and I have never liked someone like I do her before. But we are good friends. I was gonna tell her on the last day of school (last week for me) but what would be the use of that huh? But the teachers rushed everyone out of school quickly and I didn't have enough time to tell her. I can't find out her email or her s/n for an IMing service or phone #.... I feel so dumb...

[exemplary citizen]

Aren't you in, like, eighth grade?


This is a little different, sweetpea.

[Caraopacha]

yeah lol

[Forever Finite]

you just made fun of urself. haha.

anyway...reef...
judging by what you told us, it looks like you'd actually be okay with not telling her your deep dark dirty danky dusty delicious secret. selfless love is the best kind, and loving her without any real requital is very pure and simple. if she ever drops hints that she may feel the same way, go for the cheese, but don't wake daddy unless daddy is in a coma. or, don't go fishing in a pond. no, wait, nevermind.

<big><I>follow your heart. </i></big>
<img src="http://www.megsplace.com/TimeWarp/starlite.gif">

[Magenta]

(Hey finite, has anyone ever mentioned anything about "mixed metaphors" to you before?)

[Forever Finite]

no. i grew up in the harshest conditions, magenta. we didn't even have plumbing.

[Magenta]

:(

*gives you a hose for your birthday*

[Dr. Badman]

i was just asking for opinions i never said i'd act on them

sometimes i like to know how others react to situations i'm in

DO YOU SEE WHERE I AM COMING FROM BADMANNo.

[reef]

i figured you would not but hey

that is all right

i for one do not discriminate against those of

shall i say

lesser mental capacity

yes i believe that's suitable

[Dr. Badman]

You cannot compete with perfection.

[xsbs52x]

<big><I>follow your heart. </i></big>
<img src="http://www.megsplace.com/TimeWarp/starlite.gif">
more like follow your nose
http://www.kelloggs.ca/whoweare/images/char_toucansam.gif

[robot]

i loved a girl once

and then i slept over at her house

and she pretended to sleep and moved her lips around

and things have been awesome ever since

[Forever Finite]

more like follow your nose
http://www.kelloggs.ca/whoweare/images/char_toucansam.gif
i think you mean follow the yellow brick road.
<img src="http://www.cyber-cinema.com/classic/WizardOzYellwBrckA(repnt).jpg">

[steffi]

my best guy friend david likelikes me. haha. how awkward was that to tell him I had someone in new york. :(

I MEAN.

we're still best friends, and I just came back from visiting tom.