Recreational Drug usage.

[Rory Storm]

I'm not sure if this is a dilemma, or what. I was talking to a friend a few months ago and the subject of illegal drugs, such as marijuana, came up. I said that I had never tried it, and with a few more words the conversation was lost. So today I sign on to my computer and my friend IM's me asking me if I would like to join him at his house for a...session, I suppose it would be. Basically he invited me to smoke with him. Now I am nervous about it for one reason, I always said I would never do the stuff, and I vowed to my parents. I also know I can back out at any time, he told me this. I also, all these things apart, said I would try new things.

I just feel confused, I guess. What are your feelings towards a situation like this? Better yet, what were your first time smoking like? Effects? I am still on the fence about doing it. I was just looking around for information, that is all.

[Vile]

If I were you, I really wouldn't. In the long run you'll feel better for not doing it.

I hope.

Since there are a quite a few users of the drug around here, expect a biased opinion. All I can give is mine.

[Rory Storm]

Like I said, anything that could help me, will help me.

[Vile]

Well, I still say you should pull out if you aren't 100% ok with the idea, which you don't seem to be.

[exemplary citizen]

If you don't want to do it, don't do it. The guilt you would feel for doing it against a previous decision you made for yourself would certainly not make the experience worth it.

I am not against marijuana. In fact, I'm rather for it -- for <i>adult</i> users and a more responsible attitude about it from our government. I'm just not of the opinion that it's <i>for</i> me personally , so I decided a long time ago that I didn't really need to try it. It's a personal decision; don't let yourself be swayed by your peers into doing something you don't want to.

[Rory Storm]

Well the thing is is that it is completly up to me, my friend, and I suppose a true friend for saying this, said that if I at any time felt umcomfortable, that I could tell him no, and that I don't have to do. But after a long three hours at work, I decided that I would, in fact, say no.
EDIT: Now that this has been solved, time to make use of the thread. What do you think about recreational drug usage amongst friends? What about being invited by a friend to use around people you don't know?

Me not doing it yeilds no answer, but I am curious as to what you think.

[exemplary citizen]

Well the thing is is that it is completly up to me, my friend, and I suppose a true friend for saying this, said that if I at any time felt umcomfortable, that I could tell him no, and that I don't have to do. But after a long three hours at work, I decided that I would, in fact, say no.
EDIT: Now that this has been solved, time to make use of the thread. What do you think about recreational drug usage amongst friends? What about being invited by a friend to use around people you don't know?

Me not doing it yeilds no answer, but I am curious as to what you think.
Going to a fancy pants "art school" as I do, one would imagine I'd be surrounded by all kinds of weeds and herbs and whatnot. This is, in fact, not the case (I kind of like to think this is because we are a "serious" art college and hardly have the time to sleep, let alone toke up). I do have a few friends who smoke marijuana on occasion, but they are highly understanding and respectful of my decision to abstain. They offer, I politely decline, and they just go, "oh, okay. no problem." I would think anybody that wasn't couldn't be considered a true friend, really. And honestly, I've never been much of a "party person", so I've never been in too many situations where "everybody is doing it". That just seems weird to me.

This kind of reminds me of this sticker we used to have in the tattoo shop that read; "the difference between tattooed people and everybody else is that tattooed people don't care if you're tattooed or not". Except replace "tattooed" with "pot smoker". Or something. I dunno. What was I talking about again?

(note: Ami's short term memory loss is in no way the result of recreational drug useage. it got that way on its own, thank you very much. fuck.)

[TMLUVR]

I'd say unless you were totally okay with the fact that you were gonna do it, don't do it. I doubt your missing much anyways.... and if your friend is gay, do us all a favor and never smoke with him... you never know what could happen when you're high.... :D

And if the fact that he could be gay turns you on, I wish you luck with the complimentary dildo that we will give you with your canabalistic sushi you ordered.... I feel random.

[exemplary citizen]

Leave. Now. Before we call your parents and tell them you've been using the word "dildo" because you think it's the pinnacle of comedy. They will not be amused.

Hint: "Random" isn't as funny as you think, especially in the moderated forum.

[TMLUVR]

Aah stop stalking me! *glares* Fine. No more with dildos, we weren't selling very many anyways.

Now it's vibrators. ;)

[Rory Storm]

Hey, kid, this is ON TOPIC, that means SERIOUS.
You are not being serious. Also, neither of us are gay, so stop being some kind of fool.

Kids these days. They never know how to keep off of other peoples lawns.

[CSMatt]

Indeed.

I don't favor the idea of recreational drug usage. Although I can't exactly predict my future actions, I would definitely decline if someone offered drugs to me (unless, of course, the person had a gun to my head). It also concerns me when other people choose to get high without realizing the consequences, but I respect their decision to do so and, while I may express my concern for their well being, I would certainly not rat them out to the police. It's their decision, and people need to live with any consequences that may arise because of their actions.

[leatherface]

I enjoy skunk-marijuana and a few legal herbs, but I don't enforce that others use them. So in other words, smoke if you want to, if you don't that's perfectly fine. I know the possible long term effects of some of the drugs I've put into my system, and accept what happens, even though I'm very cautious and always read around about the effects of these things. Most of the time for me, I use a few legal\illegal herbs to get artistic inspiration.

By the way, if anyone here experiments with legal herbs, stay away from large ammounts of salvia and Betelnut.

[exemplary citizen]

Wouldn't that do something horrible to your liver?

[leatherface]

Are you talking about a specific herb or just my occasional use of herb?

[exemplary citizen]

No, the salvia and betelnut thing.

[MST3Kakalina]

Aah stop stalking me! *glares* Fine. No more with dildos, we weren't selling very many anyways.

Now it's vibrators. ;)
fucknut, get the hell out of my forum.


Rory: do what you want, it's that simple. if people did that, 90% of their problems would be solved. the trick is knowing what you actually want.

and Mecha says if you're not out looking for it, you shouldn't do it.

[Takker]

fucknut, get the hell out of my forum.no, cuz then he'll go to offtopica! :( send him to the art forum

and back on topic here, I think that using drugs for recreational purposes is stupid. there's so much more that you could do with your time that won't put you in danger and mess you up. But if people want to use them, then that's their choice. I have promised myself that I'll never use drugs and I'm never going to doubt that decision because I care too much about my mind and body to let it go to waste. the end.

[Sally]

I wouldn't do it. Personally, I can't stand the way I feel when I'm high. I don't know why people would want to intentionally want to do that to themselves. From my experiance, it wasn't very nice. Halucinating is not fun.

...Then again, I was tripping out on shroom Kool-Aid that I didn't know had shrooms in it. :(

But anyway, yeah. It's really up to you.

I don't think that helped very much.

[leatherface]

No, the salvia and betelnut thing.

Well I don't reccomend using betelnut because it eventually hardens your mouth's tissues so that you can't open or close it. What I meant to say about salvia is to stay away from it in general, it has a high chance of causing a "bad trip" and giving you nightmares for the rest of your life, it happened to me.

Sally: Maybe you just had a bad trip, but then again a high is a terrible thing if you don't want it. Shrooms aren't exactly the most friendly of drugs in my opinion.

[MST3Kakalina]

no, cuz then he'll go to offtopica! :( send him to the art forum


i meant more like leave the moose.

[RCCC]

Personally, I have never touch the stuff and never will. The only thing I even consider is alchohol, but that isn't too addictive and it doesn't ruin your lungs. Don't get me wrong, I know it still has bad effects, but I don't think it is as serious as the other drugs out there. Well maybe rugburns is a serious effect of alcohol, but anyways.

I known friends and other people who have used drugs. They stuff that makes you hullicinate has all sorts of effects, some say it is dangerous to be in a room with anything that looks threatening. Don't ask me anything on this(touchy subject for me) court thought that I needed anger management and said if I don't take it I go back to detention place thing. So I go there and do something to become an impatient for three days. There were all sort of crazy people are, but I remember this one imparticular person, she had a permanent side effect from a drug, and was talking to a bunny that didn't exsist all the time. Well ever since then I straighten up my attitude, and I will never go into the social worker fields. For some reason my elder sister is going to college to become a Psycologist.

The story is that it can have bad effects, and I don't know the usage or the types of drugs that cause this. But for recreational fun, play billiards.

Alcohol <i>is</i> addictive, and it fucks up your liver.

I never said it wasn't addictive, but isn't as addictive as other drugs. Crack is basically one use and you are addicted(or so I am told). I don't think alcohol is that bad, but then it depends on how frequent you drink and how valnurable you are to being addicted. Social drinking I think is okay.

[Sally]

Personally, I have never touch the stuff and never will. The only thing I even consider is alchohol, but that isn't too addictive and it doesn't ruin your lungs. Don't get me wrong, I know it still has bad effects, but I don't think it is as serious as the other drugs out there. Well maybe rugburns is a serious effect of alcohol, but anyways.

I known friends and other people who have used drugs. They stuff that makes you hullicinate has all sorts of effects, some say it is dangerous to be in a room with anything that looks threatening. Don't ask me anything on this(touchy subject for me) court thought that I needed anger management and said if I don't take it I go back to detention place thing. So I go there and do something to become an impatient for three days. There were all sort of crazy people are, but I remember this one imparticular person, she had a permanent side effect from a drug, and was talking to a bunny that didn't exsist all the time. Well ever since then I straighten up my attitude, and I will never go into the social worker fields. For some reason my elder sister is going to college to become a Psycologist.

The story is that it can have bad effects, and I don't know the usage or the types of drugs that cause this. But for recreational fun, play billiards.


Alcohol <i>is</i> addictive, and it fucks up your liver.

[SLUM WIZZARD]

I'm pretty sure alcohol isn't addictive. Kinda.

...Where is implode in a thread like this?

Well, I say that it's not a bad thing to use drugs recreationally. As long as you have the self control to keep yourself from surrounding yourself with it and letting it interfere with what you do, everything is good.

[exemplary citizen]

I'm pretty sure alcohol isn't addictive. Kinda.
<i>Really</i>? Then why the hell is AA doing business like gangbusters?

Come on, guys. Use your brains here. I know it's hard, but bear with me.

[leatherface]

Marijuana's safe enough, you can even avoid most of the lung damage if you use a vaporizer.

[töm]

alcohol can actually be more dangerous than other drugs, regarding its easy accessibility and some folks' absolute refusal to know when enough is enough. it's probably been a factor in more deaths than any other drug.

except maybe oxygen. that stuff is killing you every time you inhale it. :(

[SLUM WIZZARD]

except maybe oxygen. that stuff is killing you every time you inhale it. :(
Way to remind me, tom. Now I'm going to think about it every single time I inhale, for the next week.

You bastard. :(

[MST3Kakalina]

< I know it's hard, but bear with me.


i read that as BEER with me.


ahahaha.

[leatherface]

Well any drug has its consequences. Cigarettes eat up your lungs, alchohol kills your kidneys and fucks your liver, and marijuana renders you impotent. I'd rather be impotent.

[CSMatt]

alcohol can actually be more dangerous than other drugs, regarding its easy accessibility and some folks' absolute refusal to know when enough is enough. it's probably been a factor in more deaths than any other drug.

except maybe oxygen. that stuff is killing you every time you inhale it. :(
Then what do you suggest we breathe?

[töm]

<i>liquid</i>.

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[CSMatt]

"Liquid" is too vague, describing only the state of the inhaled substance. Be more specific, preferably naming an element.

Besides, not everyone can fit into a lab beaker.

[Rory Storm]

I guess Tom wants all to evolve in to fish, is that right?

I'm already there.

[töm]

perfluorooctyl bromide.


we just need bigger lab beakers!

[CSMatt]

And the ability to master spontaneous evolution.

[implode]

...Where is implode in a thread like this? daring a thirty billion trillion ton nuclear furnace to do its worst, i can take it.

note: this is a bad idea, i do not recommend it.

on the topic of whether you should get high or not - our answer should ALWAYS be "no." if you can't come to the decision yourself, we should absolve ourselves of any responsibility for any misfortune that might befall you from taking our advice and getting high. so, quite frankly: NO. DO NOT GET HIGH TWO DAYS AGO.

as for what my "first time" was like... i don't really remember. all i really remember was being lucid, yet panic striken at the same time. if that sounds like fun, please have a happy enjoy, but know that no drug reacts the same way on any two people, unless person two is your highly illegal clone that i will soon be reporting to president america.

[/dev/null]

<i>Really</i>? Then why the hell is AA doing business like gangbusters?

Come on, guys. Use your brains here. I know it's hard, but bear with me.Alcoholism is a disease.

Alcoholics are pretty much born alcoholics; to become one, you have to have a certain genetic predisposition to it. So you could be an alcohol abuser but not an alcoholic.

Whether alcohol is addictive or not is arguable. 'S still not good for you in large amounts, obviously.


I really don't have a problem with recreational drug use, political/economic issues aside, as long as it doesn't adversely affect the people around you.

[leatherface]

No you aren't born with an urge to drink mass quantities of grain alchohol, that's the result of peer pressure and flashy advertising. Then again there is the theory of natural selection, and with that in mind we must consider the fact that people who die of alchohol poisoning deserved to die.

[implode]

Alcoholism is a disease. yes.

Alcoholics are pretty much born alcoholics; to become one, you have to have a certain genetic predisposition to it. So you could be an alcohol abuser but not an alcoholic. ... what? who taught you that? i do not believe our understanding of genetics has quite reached the age where we can examine individual "alcoholic" genes, and i would be suspect of any study that suggests otherwise. link?

Whether alcohol is addictive or not is arguable. haha. wow. you think? okay. i say it is. argue with me.

[leatherface]

No, I'm quite sure its pretty addictive, Dev.

[the Worms]

The argument should not be about whether it is good for you or not, so long as you smoke tobacco, drink alcohol or use caffeine. In other words, mind-altering substances are not a natural thing for the human body to consume, so don't be surprised if they have adverse effects in large quantities.

The important distinction between alcohol and marijuana is one of moderation. You don't become someone else when you smoke a cig or drink coffee or have a couple of beers. With alcohol, though it is possible to completely change your mental state if abused; if used in moderation, it can be beneficial, depending on the circumstances. As rational creatures, we wouldn't do anything that we didn't think was beneficial in some way. Now unless you think it is better to be someone you aren't even if only for a short period, then using marijuana is not for you because there is no moderation. On the first couple of hits (that is, unless you have a tolerance built up), you will no longer think the same way. There is no slight buzz with weed. And I just don't think it is healthy to think that you are better off being someone else.

[robot]

What I meant to say about salvia is to stay away from it in general, it has a high chance of causing a "bad trip" and giving you nightmares for the rest of your life, it happened to me.


salvia is the strangest fucking thing ever. i have no idea how i could begin to describe my salvia trip in words.

i smoke pot daily. i think its a wonderful thing that allows me to see alot of beauty in life that i don't normally see otherwise. i wouldn't do it if you're nerbous about it, but it's definately something you should try at least once.