Bulimia

[Modest Proposal]

Okay guys, Vile is bulimic again, and she needs help. I've tried talking to her, and tried to tell her that the people who she is trying to become (on commercials) are fictional; not real.

I know there are alot of intelligent people here, and I need some more reasons. Help.

[Stuart Tusspot]

Slap her that or tell her the truth, the harsh truth that involves telling her she's a fucking idiot for listening to the media. sometimes telling your friends off is for the best, Like it or not it helps.

[exemplary citizen]

How about, you're very concerned for her because she could <i>die</i> from it? That seems like pretty damned good reasoning.

Failing that, have you tried really emphasising that she's absolutely perfect the way she is, and what she's doing is self destructive?

[Modest Proposal]

Yeah, a million trillion times. I brought up like fifty sites and described everything to her. Plus I gave her all of my support and affection. She even admits that I'm right but says that its hard to stop, which is understandable. But I'm just trying to tell her that in the long run, it won't be worth it at all.

[MST3Kakalina]

well, at this point, there's nothing we can really do. i love vile and all, but i mean, we're just words on a screen. i don't know if you can even help her, bud. honestly, the only thing that keeps me from an eating disorder is the fact that i love eating just way too much. it's like you can only see that you suck and that you're awful, and that anyone who tells you otherwise is

a) too biased to give objective praise (this is where you and us moosers fall)
b) saying so to be nice, even though they really do think you suck
c) obviously unable to see what's wrong with you

not that this is an accurate view of the world or anything. it's just the truth according to her/me.

maybe it's not that way for her, but if it is, understanding that will do a lot to help, i think.

[Rory Storm]

Seems to me like vile is a stupid attention whore bitch.

Maybe, if we just ignore her, it will go away. Watch me, I'm doing it.

Of course it could be a much more severe problem, which, if it is, would make me look like an insensitive bastard and the comment that I just made would be quite rude. Of course if this is true, I am sorry. But honestly, you girls and your OH I WANT TO BE LIKE THAT TWIG ON THAT TREE RIGHT THERE I'M TOO FAT, shove it, it's lame, it's old. Get the fuck over it. But oh wait, you can't, because it's a mental disorder. See a shrink. But you don't want to tell anyone? Oh, well then, why are you telling me? :). Zach, maybe you should really talk to her, and force her to stop. If you cared enough you would tell her parents and have them sort this whole mess out.

[Dr. Badman]

IT'S A TRAP!

[RCCC]

Personally I am tired of seeing these situations. This is insane.

(Basically I am directing a lot of this to Vile)

Just eat healthy, and you should be fine. And whatever you weigh, should be healthy, especially if you are still growing. And let me say this again just eat healthy, I cannot emphasize that enough. You shouldn't be going through malnutrition and doing these things at this age.

I used to get sick very often, and by that I vomited a lot. I ended up getting ulcers and stuff. Try to think about that every time you want to vomit. Think that you may be hacking blood one day.

I saw the other thread "I eat to much" thread. One of you said that you want to be 90 pounds, that is insane. I know an eleven year old that weight, and she is 5 foot, she is also incredibly skinny. So if you are trying to match the weight of an eleven year old, good luck trying.

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Do me a favor and at least take vitamins.

Starving and stuff like that is just bad and unhealthy. I know a lot of people know this probably already, but you may not listen because of your obsession with your weight. It doesn't mean stop eating, it only helps.





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[Charnye West]

Eat a lot of fruit. It tastes good, is not terribly fattening, and is always good for you.

Also, a prayer I will say for the Vile.

[Stuart Tusspot]

i agree with rory, most people do it for attention.

[Meat Load]

Let's look at this situation in the big picture.

PERSON A: "I have a serious problem that may or may not be an attention ploy, but regardless requires some kind of help."
PERSON B: "SHUT UP YOU FUCKING ATTENTION WHORE"

It's good to know we can rely on the wonders of the internet for such sound advice.

[Dr. Badman]

http://rgbdream.com/library/photos/warren-ackbar.png

[Meat Load]

IAIN YOUR CONSTANT POP-CULTURE REFERENCES ARE OVERWHELMING SOME OF OUR YOUNGER MEMBERS

PLEASE TRY TO KEEP YOUR INSANITY IN CHECK

[MST3Kakalina]

you guys, come on. could you at least keep your asshat tendencies away from threads like this? christ.

[Awesome McManly]

It's not like Erin made this thread herself, so you can rule out trying to get attention from us, at any rate.

Some a you guys are being cunts!

[Davey Rootbeer]

say that you'll break if off with her if she keeps it up.

Because, if she won't quit, even for YOU.. :(

[Takker]

oh jesus. <i>Vile!</i> I wish I could help and say something but everytime we do, she gets all snappy with us. if she's not willing to listen to help and change her habits, then she's going to get very sick. THERE. IS. NOTHING. WRONG. WITH. BEING. FAT! and Vile isn't even fat in the first place, so she doesn't have anything to worry about! I understand that people with eating disorders see themselves differently than we see them, and that's why Zach should go get some help for her, because if she can't see how thin she is, she won't stop.

[Linzoy]

You can't really force someone to have respect for themself. Maybe you should get vile's parents to get her professional help if she starts fainting or something.

[Vile]

CLOSE THIS FUCKING THREAD RIGHT NOW.

GOD DAMNIT.

Also, rory. dude.

off the friend list forever :(

[reef]

http://www.weblife.org/humanure/images/shitflying.jpg

[Vile]

I am going to kick Zach's ass.

[Modest Proposal]

Seems to me like vile is a stupid attention whore bitch.

Maybe, if we just ignore her, it will go away. Watch me, I'm doing it.

Of course it could be a much more severe problem, which, if it is, would make me look like an insensitive bastard and the comment that I just made would be quite rude. Of course if this is true, I am sorry. But honestly, you girls and your OH I WANT TO BE LIKE THAT TWIG ON THAT TREE RIGHT THERE I'M TOO FAT, shove it, it's lame, it's old. Get the fuck over it. But oh wait, you can't, because it's a mental disorder. See a shrink. But you don't want to tell anyone? Oh, well then, why are you telling me? :). Zach, maybe you should really talk to her, and force her to stop. If you cared enough you would tell her parents and have them sort this whole mess out.

This post made vile really really sad. I thought you were her friend.

[RCCC]

I only saw this post a bit harsh, but still, it may have some truth to it.


Besides, being harsh at times can get a point across, and is sometimes necessary.

[Rory Storm]

In a situation such as this there is not poking around trying to help from afar. There is no soft help. You need to be harsh. Vile, quite frankly, it makes me sad to see anyone hurt themselves. Especially in such a stupid way as this. What I said was meant to be harsh, it was meant to scathe and scald. I don't know why anyone does things like this, and, contrary to popular belief, I was not trying to be an asshat, no, I was trying to put the situation in a harsh light. Because that is what was needed. You really have to understand why people do these things, because they don't like how they look, even if every other person in the known universe told them otherwise, they would still see things their way, this means that there is no known way of changing how a person views themself, unless, of course, you open their eyes. Make them realize what they are doing to themself. Because in this situation, it not only hurts you, Vile, but it hurts me, it hurts the other people, it hurts the people you are really close to, like Zach. Think about that Vile. Think about your parents. It's not all about you, it's about the other people in your life. And sometimes, it's about the truth, and if you can't handle that, then maybe you just deserve to get sick. No human being, no CARING human being wants to see another person get sick and get close to death, Vile, I know, at least, I don't want to see such a thing. Of natural causes there is nothing one can do, but of things like this, you have the power, you can change, it's not up to Koba, or the mods to fix it, it's not up to me, it's not up to reef or Linzoy, it's not up to Zach to change you, it's up to you. YOU have to change. It seems to me like you do this for attention, I could be wrong, for all I know I could be right, but either way, I think for a person, any person, even people I don't know, to do this, is stupid. You can stop, you just have to want to.

[Vile]

I will say this one more time.

I am- Bloody hell - not doing this for attention. If I wanted attention I would have made this thread myself. I did not ask for (or want)your help, or zach's help, for that matter. He made this thread. I kicked his ass verbally.

I am trying to stop, contrary to the picture that everyone paints of me. It really hurts to be called stupid, whore, etc. when I AM trying to make this right and HAVE been making serious progress.

I think that your comment was just proof that people look at the problem and judge the person for it, not what they're doing about it. Being bulimic does NOT make me an attention whore at all, it means that I have a ridiculous body image.

I AM seeing a therapist (not a digglet) so why don't you wait until I fucking get IN the thread before you decide to pull a fucking dr. badman.


In short: Grow up and mind your own business, Zach, rory, rwam.

[Charnye West]

I AM seeing a therapist (not a digglet)...

<img src=http://www.dltk-kids.com/pokemon/adoptions/dugtri16.gif>

They'll pump *unh* YOU UP!

[RCCC]

Hey, he was only trying to help. In some ways a few of us were anyways. We only answered for what we knew. I cannot appoligize for everyone's actions, but some were trying to help. You could atleast try to see that. Someone went looking for help and a few of us tried to give that help.




I don't know if I said anything mean or anything, but if I did, I am sorry. I was only trying to help, and answered for what I knew. If you are mad at me, so be it.

[Rory Storm]

I guess I should learn to keep my own fucking mouth shut until I have both sides of the story. I am so sorry Vile. I was misinformed. :(.


Bye.

[Vile]

Well, you not so much, because you don't have any idea as to how long this has been going on. It was more to anyone who was being a cunty jerk about it.

We're still cool, rexington.

[reef]

hey i wasn't being a cunty jerk!

[Vile]

I didn't say that you were, tito.

oops I guess I mean tit o.

no wait I don't.

[Charnye West]

Remember when I called you Bile?

I didn't mean it.

:(

[reef]

I didn't say that you were, tito.

oops I guess I mean tit o.

no wait I don't.
:(

[töm]

best of luck and love, vile. i believe in you there.<img src=http://www.dltk-kids.com/pokemon/adoptions/dugtri16.gif>

They'll pump *unh* YOU UP!that's a dugtrio, man.

[implode]

and tried to tell her that the people who she is trying to become (on commercials) are fictional; not real. i don't like this argument. it implies that actors are made entirely of plastic, which just isn't the case. anyone who can be fooled by this argument could probably be fooled just as easily with "there is an enzyme in vomit that breaks down to a noxious gas when introduced to oxygen and builds up in the walls. after a year of vomiting in the same place, the gas could conceivably build up to critical levels and start wreaking havok on your central nervous system."

do you really want me to close this thread, vile?

[reef]

in b4 lock

[Vile]

*sigh*

no, let it be. Maybe some people can learn from this.

[reef]

dammit now i look dumb

[implode]

well, it's not like the post was inaccurate.

[Charnye West]

She said it WASN'T a diglett. What else could it be?

Where'd the hearts go?

[MST3Kakalina]

good to hear you're changing therapists. hopefully this one will actually be helpful.

let us know if we can do anything.

[Dr. Badman]

I TOLD YOU IT WAS A FUCKING TRAP!

[reef]

you did not specify the type of trap herr doctor

for all i knew it could have been the type that gets me laid

shut up i know those don't exist ok

[Forever Finite]

:(

everybody. just...uhg.

[reef]

what's the matter i thought this thread was the pinnacle of class

[Erinnish]

This is pretty stupid. Zach is only worried about you Vile, that's why he made this thread. You shouldn't be mad at him, his intentions were good. (assumption)

Also, Vile, if it <i>isn't</i> for the attention, then why do you talk about how you have an eating disorder and all your problems in like, a lot of your posts (without even being asked about it)?
I'm about to binge.
I only eat every other day.
I binge a LOT.

You've even admited yourself that you like the attention or that you want it. If you are trying to get better, then that's cool, but don't get mad at the people who care about you when they worry about you. You asked for it the moment you told a whole message board you have a problem. It's like, you talk about it freely, but then get mad when people try to talk to you about it.

I just wanted to say something because everytime I drop by here, you're saying something about how you're starving yourself or binging or cutting yourself. It gets really annoying. I don't know for sure, but I wonder if the posters here are fed up with it yet too... a lot of the times, I see that people don't even acknowledge your posts about eating disorders or they take it lightly and joke around. Which is kind of sad. You've turned something serious into a joke... and the joke's on you.

[Vile]

Because to me, it IS, and will remain, something I don't really care about.

I talk about it freely because it's the same as a new pair of shoes to me. I'm workin' on it, and well, aces to me.

I bring it up when the topic comes up. Liz made a body image thread, so I talked about it. Uchan made a fat/thin/WHAT thread, we all talked about it. I don't want people's help so much as I just sort of shrug it off, and I guess I expect them to shrug it off as well.

I do NOT like this sort of attention. I prefer, "oh that art is pretty, oh you're pretty, nice earrings, nice photo, nice house, nice blinky name" etc. Standard. Not this bullshit. The last thing I want is to be looked down on.

I am well aware that there are more efficient ways of creating negative attention, and I could just slice up my arm right now, because at the moment I don't give a damn about my body. But I won't, because that would be stupid! WHAT-don't-PEOPLE-get-ABOUT-I-DON'T-care?

Are you annoyed? Well, don't go into topics where we talk about body image, what we are eating (you want me to lie?), ETC. Other posters annoyed? Well, it's never come up before until this little beauty of a thread reared it's ugly head. Oh, wait. I guess I didn't make this thread, or even approve of it.

I'm just very confused as to why it was all well and dandy until ZACH made a thread about it. Now I am an attention whore.

Logic?

[Meat Load]

Am I the only person here who realizes that in order to be an attention whore, you have to actually attempt to attract attention? VILE DID NOT MAKE THE THREAD. THE ENTIRE CLAIM MAKES NO SENSE. How can this many people be so stupid?!

I mean, sorry for bringing this up again, but SHEESH.

[Vile]

I've come to sort of accept the title. Whatever. People who believe it aren't really friends anyway.

Can you skip rocks?

[Meat Load]

BUT IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE! DON'T ACCEPT THE TITLE, YOU DIDN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING TO DESERVE IT!



<small>Sorry.

Yeah, I can skip rocks. But I'm not that good at it.</small>

[Vile]

My record is five. I am the champion of the river.

[Meat Load]

One time when I was down in Oregon with this guy I know, there was this weird sandstone stuff that chipped off in huge flat chunks and we'd toss pieces of it like frisbees into the lake and they would make big splashes when they skipped. It was pretty rad.

[Vile]

I always called that stuff slate, because I didn't know the real name. sandstone. hmm.

I think my sister can do nine or so, but that's ok because I can just hit her with my rocks that don't even make it into the water

[Meat Load]

I think it was some kind of sandstone.

Plus, throwing rocks at people is awesome/shameful.

[Vile]

Nah, she's pretty dull. Once she lit her eyelid on fire with a sparkler.

[Meat Load]

I didn't even know that was possible.

[Vile]

It is.

And it was spectacular.

[Meat Load]

A Fourth of July to remember, no doubt.

I remember my fourth-grade teacher telling my class this marvelous story about a woman at a barbeque who accidentally lighted her beehive hairdo on fire, and the teacher's son putting it out using an entire liter of Sprite. Only in America, eh?

[Vile]

You seem to forget the I am a canijun!

We have no americas day in this country here we go.

[Meat Load]

Awesome.

You seem to forget the I am a canijun!

We have no americas day in this country here we go.GASP! I completely forgot!

So then what were you doing with sparklers?

[Dr. Badman]

...so why don't you wait until I fucking get IN the thread before you decide to pull a fucking dr. badman.Hahaha. Boo-yah.

[Awesome McManly]

Am I the only person here who realizes that in order to be an attention whore, you have to actually attempt to attract attention? VILE DID NOT MAKE THE THREAD. THE ENTIRE CLAIM MAKES NO SENSE. How can this many people be so stupid?!

I mean, sorry for bringing this up again, but SHEESH.


I think I mentioned that, like three pages back.



Psh, no one listens to me when I'm not making gay jokes.

[Stuart Tusspot]

tell me a joke about gay niggers from outerspace.

[Vile]

Awesome.

GASP! I completely forgot!

So then what were you doing with sparklers?


At my cottage we toss them in the bonfire. Explosions a-hoy.

[~V+]

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1810/cheerupemokid2gy.png

[Forever Finite]

WOW, THANKS V. i feel the healing energies surrounding us already.

try this on for size.

my mom's friend was standing to close to the grill when she was a kid. her dad squirted lighter fluid into it, causing it to flare up. the chick's hair catches on fire. a guy driving by in his pick up slams on the breaks, leaps out of the car, pulls out a blanket he happens to have in the flat bed, and proceeds to tackle the girl, thus quelling the flames.

kick ass.
remember when you said mattress instead of blanket? that was fifty times cooler.

[Erinnish]

Because to me, it IS, and will remain, something I don't really care about.

I talk about it freely because it's the same as a new pair of shoes to me. I'm workin' on it, and well, aces to me.

I bring it up when the topic comes up. Liz made a body image thread, so I talked about it. Uchan made a fat/thin/WHAT thread, we all talked about it. I don't want people's help so much as I just sort of shrug it off, and I guess I expect them to shrug it off as well.

I do NOT like this sort of attention. I prefer, "oh that art is pretty, oh you're pretty, nice earrings, nice photo, nice house, nice blinky name" etc. Standard. Not this bullshit. The last thing I want is to be looked down on.

I am well aware that there are more efficient ways of creating negative attention, and I could just slice up my arm right now, because at the moment I don't give a damn about my body. But I won't, because that would be stupid! WHAT-don't-PEOPLE-get-ABOUT-I-DON'T-care?

Are you annoyed? Well, don't go into topics where we talk about body image, what we are eating (you want me to lie?), ETC. Other posters annoyed? Well, it's never come up before until this little beauty of a thread reared it's ugly head. Oh, wait. I guess I didn't make this thread, or even approve of it.

I'm just very confused as to why it was all well and dandy until ZACH made a thread about it. Now I am an attention whore.

Logic?

Ugh. Don't talk to me about logic. You're an unhealthy twig of a girl and you think you're fat. LOGIC?!

And if you don't care about your eating disorder and you talk about it freely, then why do you get pissed when someone mentions it or tries to help you? (Also, it's kind of hard to avoid the threads where you DON'T talk about your eating disorder. You mention it in threads that have nothing to do with food or weight a lot of the times.)

People are so used to you talking about your eating disorder that they have also begun to shurg it off. Also, it never was well and dandy, you've been known as an attention whore for a long time now, although I wouldn't personally call you that. I would never say that about someone. I am just wondering if a part of you likes the attention when you mention your eating disorder all the time. And it's not negative attention, it's the "You're skinny, don't starve yourself!" pleas and compliments you get from people that care about you that I think you like.

Just so you know, I do not judge you. I don't see you as an attention whore or just another eating disorder statistic. I don't see life and people that way. But again, if you didn't want this, you shouldn't have told a public message board about it.

Am I the only person here who realizes that in order to be an attention whore, you have to actually attempt to attract attention? VILE DID NOT MAKE THE THREAD. THE ENTIRE CLAIM MAKES NO SENSE. How can this many people be so stupid?!

It doesn't matter if she didn't make the thread. I wasn't talking about this thread. I was talking about her posts that make her seem like she likes the attention (not that she does it ONLY FOR the attention). You guys aren't looking at the big picture. This thread was made by someone who sees her in real life and cares and worries about her. But Vile doesn't even CARE and talks about it like it's nothing, yet she gets pissed off when someone brings it up. THAT doesn't make sense! THAT is what I don't get! I'm talking about her posts that makes her look like she likes the attention, not this stupid thread!

Oh and thanks for being a huge asshole, Trogg.

[Meat Load]

Yeah, but I was talking about the matter at hand. And I wasn't even talking to you.

And how was I being an asshole? I'm trying to be on as many peoples' sides as I can here, but no one's letting me! Stop it, everyone!

[Vile]

Told you, trogg-o.

I actually.. don't.. hard to explain. No point in trying. I guess it's creepy when a message board starts trying to help. Like, casual refrence, fine. Actual help? aah. no. There will be certain people above that, though. I'm not "pissed". Maybe at Zach, but not the rest of you.

And I do care. I'm scared, I don't want to look at it like a problem. I want it to go away. I want it to be accepted. I don't want it to be this huge thing. That it is. Hello internet drama.

[Meat Load]

Told you, trogg-o.Yeah, I suppose you did.

Alright, I'm out. Everyone else can run this thread even further into the ground, but I'm jumping off while I still can.

[Erinnish]

Well, in my opinion, you were being an asshole. (And not necessarily only to me).

Also, why don't you go by your OWN morals and opinions instead of being on everyone's side? That's actually not even possible to be on everyone's side. I can see you're trying, but it's not working.

[Meat Load]

I wasn't trying to, though. I was going with what I thought was right. People were being rude, and I didn't like it. I don't even remember what it was that you said, but you of all people should know that I have nothing against you.

And I try to see everything as many ways as possible because I think it's the best way to think. It's something I don't want to get into, as I don't particularly want to talk about myself right now.

Sorry if I came off as rude to you in particular, but I wasn't intending to.

Now can everyone please just let this whole embarassing ordeal go? I know I wouldn't be the only one happy to see it gone.

[Erinnish]

I thought other people in this thread were being rude too, not particularly you. I know you weren't trying to be an "asshole". Most people don't try to, it just happens. (For one, I thought you were calling me stupid, but you misunderstood what I said).

I try to see everything as many ways as possible too. I'm not one of the people calling Vile an attention whore or labeling her.

I actually.. don't.. hard to explain. No point in trying. I guess it's creepy when a message board starts trying to help. Like, casual refrence, fine. Actual help? aah. no. There will be certain people above that, though. I'm not "pissed". Maybe at Zach, but not the rest of you.

And I do care. I'm scared, I don't want to look at it like a problem. I want it to go away. I want it to be accepted. I don't want it to be this huge thing. That it is. Hello internet drama.

Then why did you tell everyone about it? You can't expect everyone to just make casual remarks about it and accept it. It's a horrible thing and most people see it that way. You can't just hide from it by being casual. No matter what, it's a serious thing. I also don't understand how you can be pissed at the person who cares about you most of all. Give him a break. (This was my opinion and advice, not me telling you what to do. You can just ignore me if you want).

[Vile]

Well, people have been as of LATE, you know, before zach decided he had to make a thread about it. People were ignoring it, it was all very good.

I was mad because he tells people he doesn't even believe me, and then he makes this pile of horror, and other times he just changes the subject. He complains when I tell him I throw up, and he gets mad when I don't. He can not, will not, does not help. Also, he makes it sound like I'm not changing. I haven't thrown up in quite a while. Again, I say aces to me. I just don't want this to be a big deal.

[Awesome McManly]

MY imitation of Erinnish: "I'm not calling you an attention whore, but you are."

God, shut up!

You're not exactly around all that much. If you're going to come in and share your opinion, don't act so self righteous and make statements like "I'm not labeling you, or judging you, but..."

FUCK! YOU ARE! If you're going to take a stance on something, don't hide behind a blanket statement like that.

Everybody judges people according to their own personal morals and values. It's virtually impossible not to.

[Vile]

Don't be a cunt, justin.

Go play nice with trogg. GOD. this isn't such a big deal, you know?

[Awesome McManly]

Sorry.

Next time someone is being condescends you, I'll just walk away.

[Vile]

She wasn't doing anything wrong. If she wants to be condescending, let her.

You know, I just might be able to fend for myself.

[Awesome McManly]

I wasn't trying to say that you couldn't.

Meh, I had kinda a shitty day at work, and her posts just made me fume.

She has a tendency to get under my skin.

[Erinnish]

Well, I do lurk occassionaly, so I know some things. But I'm really not calling her an attention whore. I think that's a stupid term. I was just wondering why she would talk about something that's so serious like it's not serious at all. What I thought of first is that maybe she likes the positive attention. I was wondering if she likes hearing people care about her. Like it's comforting. I mean, I just don't see why she would tell a public message board about it unless she was looking for feedback. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, though. But if she doesn't want people trying to help her, then I think it's odd that she'd tell anyone.

Also, it is possible not to judge. Not saying I never judge people, because I do, but I'm trying to keep an open mind here. I'm asking Vile stuff so I understand more, not to insult her. And I'm definitley not labeling her. I see her as a person, not a statistic.

I just don't want this to be a big deal.

Yeah... if you don't want it to be a big deal, don't mention it anymore (and ask Zach not to talk about it either). I'm trying to be helpful. I know this thread upset you.

[steffi]

well, <i>obviously</i> people who actually have an illness don't see it the same way as we do.

we freak out a lot LESS if we're the ones hurt, as opposed to witnessing someone else get hurt.

[Erinnish]

Well, that's because she's the one afflicting the damage to herself. It's not like if it were cancer and she has no control over it. So, of course she doesn't "freak out". It just kind of makes me uncomfortable when people take a serious thing lightly.

She has a tendency to get under my skin.

Really? Wow, that's a first for me. No one has like, ever really hated me before. That makes me feel kind of bad. Oh well, we must just be complete opposites and we anger each other without even trying. It might just be how it's rather easy to misinterpret people over the internet. (Like something I say might seem condescending even though I'm not trying to be).

[steffi]

I was thinking like a cut, actually. or any kind of wound. self-inflicted or not. and how serious something is, is totally relative.

[Linzoy]

Well, I do lurk occassionaly, so I know some things. But I'm really not calling her an attention whore. I think that's a stupid term. I was just wondering why she would talk about something that's so serious like it's not serious at all. What I thought of first is that maybe she likes the positive attention. I was wondering if she likes hearing people care about her. Like it's comforting. I mean, I just don't see why she would tell a public message board about it unless she was looking for feedback. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, though. But if she doesn't want people trying to help her, then I think it's odd that she'd tell anyone.

Also, it is possible not to judge. Not saying I never judge people, because I do, but I'm trying to keep an open mind here. I'm asking Vile stuff so I understand more, not to insult her. And I'm definitley not labeling her. I see her as a person, not a statistic.



Yeah... if you don't want it to be a big deal, don't mention it anymore (and ask Zach not to talk about it either). I'm trying to be helpful. I know this thread upset you.
I think some people mention their physical problems not because they want people to feel sorry for them, but because they think it's fascinating. It's always intresting, not only on an emotional level, when you're feeling some kind of pain that you've never felt in your life. I think vile was trying to get help sometimes, but it doesn't mean she wants pity every time she brings up something.

[Erinnish]

I never said pity, I said comfort. I said that I wonder if she likes the comfort of hearing people care about her, which is why she talks about it openly? Which I don't think is wrong. I'm just trying to understand. Plus, I know how people are when they want pity and she isn't like that. I understand if she talks about it for comfort.

Anyway, I'm so sorry about this Vile. I feel like we're talking about you behind your back. "Vile this, Vile that". At this point, I'm just defending myself, trying to get people to understand me and what I meant.

[Vile]

Say whatever you feel like, I'm enjoying the show.

I've told you all that I can about why I feel that I do something, but other opinions don't bother me at all. That is, so long as they stay theories and not accusations.

[Dr. Badman]

She has a tendency to get under my skin.As you have a tendancy to pounce on her whenever she posts something.

What's your problem? She's the only person I EVER see you 'attack'...

PS: TRAP. etc.

[steffi]

I say, Mr. Pot, nice day, isn't it?

[Dr. Badman]

Racist pig.

I have reasons to back up everything I do. Just wondering if the Wasabi does too...

[steffi]

if by "reasons" you mean personal opinions...

[Dr. Badman]

You know what I mean - now you're just trying to stir up shit.

I aint taking the bait, m'amsir.

[steffi]

again, you are notoriously hypocritical. now scoot.

[Dr. Badman]

But isnt stirring up shit to stir up the shitstirrer just as hypocritical?

Put that in your face and scoot it.

[steffi]

uh. no. so why don't you stop posting in this thread now.

[Dr. Badman]

Because I was asking Justin a question when a feline swiped at me from the bushes...

(PS: Yeah. Nice deleting my post, Steff. It's not like I'm going to re-post it and point out to anyone here reading that you're deleting posts that disagree or argue with you. Furthermore I'm guessing you'll deny it and get all defensive and pissy, then try and have me banned again. Grow up already)

[robot]

ew gross

[Awesome McManly]

Well first off, I mentioned my shitty day, yes?

I may have been harsh, but I have a strong sense of loyalty to my friends if I feel they're being attacked.

Though I may even agree with some of the things Erinnish was saying, I didn't like her means of argument.

The last time I attacked her, it was for a similar reason.

But I stand by my opinions in previous post, even if I went about it like an ass hole.

I find you argue while creating a shield between yourself and your opinions, Erin. If you feel strongly about something, stick to it, and back it up. That is unless someone presents you with a viable argument to change it, obviously.

Also, this I don't judge you thing. If you have any kind of opinion about someone, that's kind of judging them. An opinion is a judgment call. It's not like those can't change. In fact, I'm usually quite content to tell someone I used to dislike, when I think I've misjudged them. It happens.

[Erinnish]

You're just misunderstanding me.

I find you argue while creating a shield between yourself and your opinions, Erin. If you feel strongly about something, stick to it, and back it up. That is unless someone presents you with a viable argument to change it, obviously.

But... I don't like to argue. And I try to be nice and consider other's opinions before shoving mine down their throats. Plus, I don't force my opinion on people, I just explain my opinion because I like people to know how I feel about something. The only reason why I replied in this thread was so I could understand Vile better, not to argue or insult her.

Also, this I don't judge you thing. If you have any kind of opinion about someone, that's kind of judging them. An opinion is a judgment call. It's not like those can't change. In fact, I'm usually quite content to tell someone I used to dislike, when I think I've misjudged them. It happens.

Judging someone is having an opinion about someone that you make from how you see the person. It's like seeing a woman with revealing clothing and instantly thinking shes a slut without even knowing her. But I didn't do that to Vile. I didn't accuse her of being an attention whore, I asked her questions and provided the information that I knew of so I could understand her better. If I were judging her, I'd be calling her an attention whore, but I'm not and I don't think that. At first I was a little bothered by the situation and some of the things Vile does, but now I understand her better.

It's like you want me to fight with you, but I don't want to. I don't have anything to fight with you about.

[MST3Kakalina]

hello Erinnish, i'm sorry you had to come back to this...chaos.

i had a whole long post but you know what? this thread already has too many posts. <s>not to mention all of the Taurus/Scorpio tension going on here with Erin and JT</s>


so yeah. Pat Robertson, what a card.

[implode]

*yaawn* good morning, thread! th... thread? mm. well. better just make with the agenda, then.

People are so used to you talking about your eating disorder that they have also begun to shurg it off. Also, it never was well and dandy, you've been known as an attention whore for a long time now, although I wouldn't personally call you that. I would never say that about someone. I am just wondering if a part of you likes the attention when you mention your eating disorder all the time. And it's not negative attention, it's the "You're skinny, don't starve yourself!" pleas and compliments you get from people that care about you that I think you like as a supposed COMPLIMENT FISHERMAN myself, i feel suited to address a comment of this sort. as soon as my cup of coffee is full, again.

we (i don't mean to speak for vile, so i'll just maintain that i'm referencing several of my personalities at one time) do not mention our negative aspects just to reap the supposed benefits of positive reinforcement that is bound to follow, considering the company we're keeping. what we're trying to do when we tell people about our problems is <i>desensitize</i> our company to them, under the (perhaps false) impression that they will grow to accept it as just another quirk of our personalities and make references to it in casual conversation as normal as references to how sexy the weatherman is. when i say something like "oh, don't read this, it sucks" the absolute LAST thing i want is a cavalry of people to stand united in denial of my affirmation. it makes me uncomfortable. i obviously don't feel the same way as you do, and since the topic of conversation is <i>me</i>, i believe i should have the final say in which direction the conversation should go. when someone disagrees, there are two main points that must be addressed before the compliment can be "accepted" as such. they are:

1.) is this person smarter than i? (eg - does this person know what they are talking about, and should i bother listening?) "smarter" is misleading, because you don't have to be smart or dumb to see certain things that others might miss. it's more like "is this person seeing something that i've never thought about before? are they introducing a new idea to the concept?" the answer is usually no, and their opinion is more along the lines of "you are better at writing/drawing/being skinny than i am, and therefore, you are good at it." which is a fair enough opinion to have, but something i'll never accept as an actual compliment. just because i'm better than you doesn't mean i'm "good." i hope i have not injured your feelings, but this is why i don't normally mention such things.

2.) is this person full of shit and just concerned about my feelings? this one is almost impossible to get past when you're always surrounded by your friends, and it's where most compliments go to die. when someone is being badmouthed, it is human nature for the friends of said one to get defensive and rally around their fallen friend. but when the person who is badmouthing you IS you, it is entirely pointless to say "no way, man! you are teh creamy goodness." and expect it to change anyone's mind.

therefore, the only "compliments" we accept as such must come from people who are superior to us in whatever endeavor we're badmouthing, and must also have no emotional ties to us whatsoever. only then can the compliment truly have any effect on the way we feel about ourselves, aside from the "aw. i have friends." reaction that #2 will inevitably invoke. why we keep mentioning it is because we <i>believe</i> it, and it is a disclaimer, meant to WARN our friends about the horrors we believe we are presenting you with. despite your relatively arrogant assessment, simply HAVING your attention just ain't good enough to make us happy, so stop calling us fucking attention whores. we don't want positive reinforcement. we want you to either agree with us, present some sort of new argument to the contrary, or just ignore it entirely and move on to whatever we're presenting to you. looking down at ourselves is as natural as breathing. i guess this could be considered "heavy breathing" - we can't help that we're doing it, and if it indicates anything, it's that we NEED attention, not that we're looking for it or even want it.

coffee is so goddamned delicious.

[Erinnish]

Everyone needs attention and love and all that good stuff. The only kind of people that call other's attention whores are just jealous because they don't get much attention themselves, probably. Or something.

[steffi]

Because I was asking Justin a question when a feline swiped at me from the bushes...

(PS: Yeah. Nice deleting my post, Steff. It's not like I'm going to re-post it and point out to anyone here reading that you're deleting posts that disagree or argue with you. Furthermore I'm guessing you'll deny it and get all defensive and pissy, then try and have me banned again. Grow up already)
lolz I was making a point to you of you not stopping after me repeatedly telling you to, ass.

I expected you to post again.

[Takker]

hey guys, I'm adopting a cat today

[Meat Load]

Awesome.

[Vile]

Aces.

[Rory Storm]

I am contemplating what I should do with these three empty canvases I have. I have some interesting ideas....

[Meat Load]

Make a little tent out of them, and then hide underneath and put up a sign that says "no girls allowed".

[Rory Storm]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/RoryStorm/DSC00069.jpg


No girls allowed. Except the cool ones.

[Meat Load]

You win.

[Rory Storm]

I know I already posted this, but this is what I did with one of those canvases:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/RoryStorm/DSC00075.jpg

[Dr. Badman]

lolz I was making a point to you of you not stopping after me repeatedly telling

you to, ass.

I expected you to post again.Do you seriously think I would OBEY an order from you? Who do you think you are? You think that just because you're openly abusing your undeserved position you can boss people around, huh? I lost any respect I had for you eons ago, so dont expect anything from me.

[Awesome McManly]

we don't.

the rash you give us is plenty, thanks.

[Dr. Badman]

That's some joke you got there, JT. Laughin' it up right now. At your joke. Because it's funny. Trust me - jokes are funny. I mean, it wouldnt be a joke if it wasnt funny, right? And I wouldnt be laughing. Hoo boy...

[Forever Finite]

<I>somebody</i> missed their afternoon nappy wappy.

[Awesome McManly]

That's some joke you got there, JT. Laughin' it up right now. At your joke. Because it's funny. Trust me - jokes are funny. I mean, it wouldnt be a joke if it wasnt funny, right? And I wouldnt be laughing. Hoo boy...


It's okay. I'm well aware that only the misery of others can bring a smile to your face.

[Dr. Badman]

YOU DONT KNOW ME

YOU DONT KNOW ME

<I>somebody</i> missed their afternoon nappy wappy.Hahah. Yeah. I was trying that one on for size. I've got a heaps funnier variant for next time...

[steffi]

you are nothing.

[Dr. Badman]

I'm pretty awesome, actually.

That's something.

Yay for late replies due to LANing with friends for 3 days...

[steffi]

tell me something, why do you stay here?

[Forever Finite]

i think that is an answer to a question of a thing that we'd all like to know.

[implode]

ow. my fucking brain.

[Forever Finite]

ow, my poor sentence. leave him alone, you big bully.

[implode]

i'm trying to save the world from meaningless moments of mind peril, here, and all you're concerned about is your feelings?

grow up. seriously.

[Dr. Badman]

tell me something, why do you stay here?I dont stay here. I visit here.

Hah. Every thread that I post in ends up with an argument... which always ends with someone asking "WHY DO YOU COME HERE?". You expect me to change my answer each time you ask me, or do you think that one day I might go "OH SHIT YOU GOT ME!". I've said countless times why I visit here. Go look it up.

Yay for LANing Saturday to Monday...

TIRED.

[steffi]

I believe all said posts don't exist anymore, but I'll just assume it was some whiny asshole reason about how you used to like us or something blahblah...

well, go the fuck away. no one likes you. find another board and don't come back.

[Dr. Badman]

It was very recent, little miss unobservant.

As for your humble request: No.

No-one has to like me, no-one has to read my posts, and no-one has to reply to them. Feel free to add me to your ignore list, and cease all interactions - I'd do the same if I had a problem with you.

You're only making it worse for yourself by adding fuel to the fire...

[tater]

hey guys, I'm adopting a cat today
*jealous*

I shall soon have my two kitties or there's gonna be a smackdown in this house.

Actually, I just have to persuade Argo that adopting two sweet little kittens would, indeed, be a good idea. I'm here permanantly now and his cat Hillary has been warming up to me, but ... she's not a cuddle cat. I need a cuddle cat.

*sigh* I miss my kitties.


PS Steffi, you and Tom should come visit sometime. We could probably get a few others to drop by too. Come seeeeee meeeeeee. I missed you this year.



<small>Oh and I'd just like to reiterate: It's WONDERFUL not being a Toddler. I'm happy to just go to the moosecon.</small>

[Awesome McManly]

speaking of which, have you had time to upload your con pics yet?

[tater]

Yes dear, just uploading them now, as a matter of fact. Be prepared for some major picture-ing in the appropiate forums.

:D

[Awesome McManly]

SA-WEET!!!

[steffi]

tom left today, you guys. for new york. :(

[reef]

ok

[Takker]

tom left today, you guys. for new york. :(tell him to bring you back a snowglobe full of love

[tater]

tom left today, you guys. for new york. :(
:( :(

I'm sorry. How are you doing down there in hurricane central, anyway? I was watching the weather last night and my heart jumped when I realized it was coming almost right over you guys. I trust things are okay?

[Magenta]

no one likes you.
*cough*



COUGH.

[steffi]

magenta, I am assuming you are insane about this.
:( :(

I'm sorry. How are you doing down there in hurricane central, anyway? I was watching the weather last night and my heart jumped when I realized it was coming almost right over you guys. I trust things are okay?
yeah, it's just a little rainy and windy in memphis. meh. but who knows when loyola will be open now. :(

[Forever Finite]

Yes dear, just uploading them now, as a matter of fact. Be prepared for some major picture-ing in the appropiate forums.

:D
computer sez: cannot right click and save as album 'Tater' is suspisciously EMPTY.

[Awesome McManly]

she's uploading them today.

[Dr. Badman]

*cough*



COUGH.TAKE ME





TO BATTLE

[Magenta]

magenta, I am assuming you are insane about this.
That's fine. I'll keep assuming that he's one of my friends, you keep assuming that I'm insane.

Badman: not now...

[Dr. Badman]

Hahah.

That's mah <s>girl</s> <s>wife</s> friend...

Dont lose any moose-friends at my expense, sweetykins.

[MST3Kakalina]

what the fuck just happened in this thread?


oh. ohhhh. i think i get it now. NEVERMIND.

[KLEIN]

Sign me up under the list of people who like Badman.

You mods. Don't you have anything better to do?

AND WHERE DID <i>THIS</i> ( :black<3: ) COME FROM?

[MST3Kakalina]

Sign me up under the list of people who like Badman.

You mods. Don't you have anything better to do?


not really, that's why we're mods.


anyway, i like Badman. i just don't like shit-disturbing.

[steffi]

I totally made it, klein. and that's my anything better to do.

[Davey Rootbeer]

nananananananananananananananananananananana BADMAN BADMAN!

[tater]

computer sez: cannot right click and save as album 'Tater' is suspisciously EMPTY.
Sorry, i just stuck them on my computer because i hadn't gotten my confirmation thingy until today. they are UP! :)

[Awesome McManly]

and the village people rejoiced. :)

[MST3Kakalina]

...and they rejoiced by doing the Y.M.C.A.

[KLEIN]

Boo. Hiss.

[dromeda779]

Just a random question....WTF is up with the card suits on random people?

[tater]

*beats Klein with a moxied harmonica*

[dromeda779]

::drenches everyone in Moxie::

[Dr. Badman]

Sign me up under the list of people who like Badman.

You mods. Don't you have anything better to do?
B,

It's kind of funny when the mods swarm over everything I do. I'm some sort of political figure... thing. It's kinda like how some used to bitch at you, only these ones actually hate me. There's also an "it's cool to hate Badman" vibe going around. Poor fools.

[Magenta]

Your like the president, people like to blame everything (like hurricanes) on you.