guess what i did yesterday

[MST3Kakalina]

i hung out with <a href="http://www.roomwithamoose.com/vbulletin/member.php?find=lastposter&t=16455">/dev/null</a>. we played Mario and watched some anime and talked to some of my friends.

[Meat Load]

Which Mario?

[MST3Kakalina]

Super Mario World and also the original. one of my friends has a SNES in his suite.

[exemplary citizen]

You suck. I never get to hang out with my moosey buddies any more. :(


GUESS WHAT IIIIII DID ON FRIDAY. I got to go see the reclusive <a href=http://www.zeitgeistfilms.com/directors/tbrothers/>Brothers Quay</a> speak at the Academy. It was awesome. And this one guy asked if they remembered his mother from their art school days in the 60's and the weirdest "LOL fucked ur mom... both of us" moment occurred. The rofflecopter crashed.

[Meat Load]

Super Mario World and also the original. one of my friends has a SNES in his suite.
Sweet.

Multiplayer Mario World is always a blast.

[Forever Finite]

dev/nul is still alive? well that's a relief!

You suck. I never get to hang out with my moosey buddies any more. :(


GUESS WHAT IIIIII DID ON FRIDAY. I got to go see the reclusive <a href=http://www.zeitgeistfilms.com/directors/tbrothers/>Brothers Quay</a> speak at the Academy. It was awesome. And this one guy asked if they remembered his mother from their art school days in the 60's and the weirdest "LOL fucked ur mom... both of us" moment occurred. The rofflecopter crashed.
hahaha. that's the best.

[exemplary citizen]

I know. It was so weird. They were winking and nudging each other, while the audience kind of uncomfortablly giggled. The guy who asked just said "This is the most awesome day of my life", which made it even worse.

Just imagine that. They're identical twins. "Does this mean both of you are my dads?" Gross.

[Forever Finite]

wait..he doesn't know who his father is? cause if so, weird.

[exemplary citizen]

I'm totally extrapolating there (I'm sure his father is somebody entirely different) but my mind won't let me stop imagining all the disgusting ramifications of that idea.

Would you be able to determine paternity with identical twins? I'm not up on my genetics.

[Forever Finite]

surely. their DNA isn't the same, even if they are identical.

[exemplary citizen]

Ah, yeah. That's true. This is what I get for falling asleep in high school science.

[Shaman King]

surely. their DNA isn't the same, even if they are identical.
I think their DNA <em>is</em> the same if they are identical. The zygote or whatever it is at that stage splits into two identical cell-balls, making clones.

I think this is the perfect question for everyone's good friend Cecil Adams.

[exemplary citizen]

I think we've opened up something new and horrible with this thread. Sorry, Koba.

[exemplary citizen]

Oh snap, the internets weigh in on the issue:

When one egg is fertilized by one sperm cell, and then divides and separates, two identical cells will result. These cells will then develop into identical twins. The DNA profiles for identical twins will be identical.

Sometimes, a paternity testing question involves two alleged fathers who are identical twins. Can you determine the paternity of the child using identical twins? No. You can exclude and determine non-paternity but you cannot include them.

Twins have the same DNA and therefore, if they are alleged to be the father of a child, the results can only determine that neither twin is the father of the child in question or that one of the twins could be the father but it would not be possible through DNA testing to determine which twin is the father.
Huh.

[Komrade Kayce]

Yeah, I learned that shit when I watched the episode of csi where one twin killed someone and the other was all 'no, it couldnt have been me, I was at a bank' even though her dna proved it was her, but the security camera showed her at a bank.

[Forever Finite]

woah weird. no wonder twins do creepy things like make up their own languages and read eachothers' minds.

so, technically, that means that twins can help science to settle the nature vs. nurture debate? they can seperate twins at birth and mark any similarities later in life. or take case studies and look into those.

[Davey Rootbeer]

An experement was conducted in the late 70's where twin sisters were seperated at birth, and then reunited in 1994, coincidently meeting in a shoping mall.

despite being twins, the experement concluded that:

A. they had indivisual personalities and due to different upbringings, different values.

B. attraction can be atributed toward one identical twin and not the other, furthering the nurture aspect further studies performed by the simpsonian institute in studies of homosexuality in one twin.)

the twins were monitored by an independant study group of Amorphous Bipartisan Coordinators (ABC) and the results were transfered over Newtonian Binghamton Castle for further analysis.


The experement was discontinued in 1999 due to lack of public interest.

[MST3Kakalina]

uhhh.

lots of personality traits are actually VERY heritable (see Matt Ridley's <i>The Agile Gene</i>): things like "religiousity," shyness, etc have repeatedly been shown to be surprisingly similar among identical twins seperated at birth (though less so than fraternal twins, to be sure). There are certain personality traits that are more a product of environment and different upbringing, though. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is sense of humour.

Finny, i think you would really like this book. if I find my copy I'll mail it off to you post haste.

[tass]

we read all kinds of articles about stuff like that in my micro/genetics class. wish i still had them to scan for you guys.

remember one of them was called "the god gene." think it was in time magazine, not sure.

[Forever Finite]

uhhh.

lots of personality traits are actually VERY heritable (see Matt Ridley's <i>The Agile Gene</i>): things like "religiousity," shyness, etc have repeatedly been shown to be surprisingly similar among identical twins seperated at birth (though less so than fraternal twins, to be sure). There are certain personality traits that are more a product of environment and different upbringing, though. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is sense of humour.

Finny, i think you would really like this book. if I find my copy I'll mail it off to you post haste.
eee. also, if you want to save some money, just give me the name and i can check our library.

[MST3Kakalina]

it's by Matt Ridley. it's been published under two titles, <i>The Agile Gene</i> and <i>Nature Via Nurture</i>. i don't know wtf is up with that, except the former is the paperback title and the latter the hardcover. the paperback might have an extra appendix or an updated introductino or something, i'm not sure.

[Davey Rootbeer]

Koba, you didn't watch much TV in the mid 90's, did you?

:(

[MST3Kakalina]

umm let's see.

saturday morning cartoons, MST3K, the news at dinner, Nick at Nite for an hour before bed.

i guess not really.