Controversy!

[HOMERCHESTRA]

This place is lacking in discussions! So, I shall create one. Who are the bigger faggots, Fallout Boy or Avenged Sevenfold?

On one hand, Fallout Boy writes incredibly annoying yet undenyably catchy songs that get inexplicably relentless airplay (a'la James Blunt. Whose cock did that musical abortion suck?), yet Avenged Sevenfold is just all-around shit combined with an incredibly stupid visual aspect. I mean, Jesus Christ...
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HOLY SHIT GUYS THESE DUDES WILL FUCK ME UP HARDCORE

[Meat Load]

Fallout Boy has to be the shittiest emo band ever.

I don't know about those other guys, but Fallout Boy is just plain laughable, so I vote them.

[t3]

I don't follow all these hip new bands that the kids listen to (I just stick to my Sonic Heroes OSTs...) but my sister likes System of a Down, and that band sort of sets my retart detector off. So, can I just write them onto the ballot too?

(Although, "Avenged Sevenfold" is a particularly dumb-soudning name, and wasn't "Fallout Boy" from an episode of the Simpsons?)

[ImWearingUrSkin]

Saturday I was with my friend who, outside musicals, knows almost nothing of music. She had a Panic! At the disco (or whatever) CD and was telling me how they are kinda punk, like fallout boy.

gergheghghsd

[deadish]

i can imagine that they both smell of urine and rotted veg-e-ta-bles, though i haven't heard either of them...

but man. i so want to marry that picture in your sig, rev. **rolls about in glee**

[Fistsetsfire]

One: Yes. Fall Out Boy was Radioactive Man's sidekick, played by Millhouse.

Two: AvSev is gayest for selling out an already shitty sound. "To Sound the Seventh Trumpet" was a decent album at best, but the new shit is just that - shit. I mean, damn yo! Hardcore rockin' on the same radio station as Hawthorne Heights! That's my dream, too!

Fall Out Boy, at least, doesn't hide the fact that they suck.

PS: New AFI album 6/6/06. Who's excited? Certainly not <I>meeeeee</I>.

[exemplary citizen]

PS: New AFI album 6/6/06. Who's excited? Certainly not <I>meeeeee</I>.
Oh THAT's what those billboards around town are for. Ooookay.

Fisty, you know I love ya, but if I sees Davey Havok out in public while I'm trying to eat or have fun one more time, someone's getting a beat-down.

[Micah]

A7X's first album was good. Fall out boy was allways shitty. Avenged Sevenfold needs to start screaming again. SchoolKeyboards suck. My spacebarworks everyother time.

[HOMERCHESTRA]

No, they need to fucking die. Somebody ban this micah fucker.

[banky]

The guy from A7X cant scream anymore. Pussy destroyed his vocal chords trying to be hardcore.

As for my thoughts of the bands ... Reverend got it about right.

[implode]

i kind of missed the wave on fallout boy, despite the fact that i usually take most of the advice that i see pinned on little girls' bookbags, but when i finally heard that "dance dance" song i was pretty bummed that another relatively crappy singer was infilitating homes across america by singing a falsetto chorus. it's all i've heard of them - does anyone who isn't flagrantly biased have any recommendations?

avenged sevenfold is, at the very least, good. very easy to get sick of and not even the saucer i'd hold my cup of tea on, but they can at least avoid rewriting the same song that's been a commercial success 5,000 times before.

[Micah]

No, they need to fucking die. Somebody ban this micah fucker.
It's not like I listen to them all that much. Have you even heard their old album though? It's nothing like that Bat Country bullshit.

...And yes they do need to die. One minute they're allright, the next they're on fucking MTV. I also hate that they call themselves Metal/Punk because they don't encompass either of those genres.

[Rasputin]

I haven't followed the music scene in...actually, come to think of it, I've NEVER followed the music scene. Most of my music (with the exception of Rasputina and veritable tons of Tchaikovsky) is made up of hand-me-downs from other people. All I've been listening to recently is Radiohead albums...over and over again. So my musical illiteracy staggers even myself.

That said, listening to music has actually helped me get my first damn short story done in months, so I think it's high time I actually started looking into this strange thing called 'music' again.

I'll start off with Rachmaninov and work forwards in time. What do you all recommend?

Oh, and I vote for both because most music sucks by default...

[Micah]

Basically, any band that has had their video on US MTV in the last 5 years is worthless.

(any meaning most (I say that so I can makeexcuses for any good bands that might come up in future arguments)).

[implode]

i recommend not listening to micah because he is a fucking doughnut, but i doubt you needed to hear that from someone else.

i always feel weird about recommending music, because taste is a funny thing, but going by the information you've given i'll recommend ben folds, knowing that you've probably already heard him.

[Micah]

He's good. I like his Ben Folds Five albums better though.

Implode- you have to admit that I'm a bit better than when I first came to this board.

[implode]

yes, i do. well. i don't HAVE to, but i will, since you seem to want me to.

[exemplary citizen]

Ras: for some reason, I think you might really like a band called "Eels". Try out their albums "Beautiful Freak" and "Electro-shock Blues". "Last Stop: This Town" is quite possibly the most beautiful, non-angst filled song about grief I've ever heard.

Then again, you might loathe them. But it's worth a shot on the "you like Radiohead" front.

[Sally]

...I like Fall Out Boy. And Avenged Sevenfold.

Please don't hurt me :(

[banky]

Everybody has thier problems ....

[Meat Load]

...I like Fall Out Boy. And Avenged Sevenfold.

Please don't hurt me :(
gtfo

You fail.

[Sally]

Yeah, I know.

[xsbs52x]

A7X is my favorite band. and im not afraid to admit that. every member of the band is extremely talented. they are amazing song writers, and they put on great live shows.

also, yeah he fucked up his voice screaming, but got surgery. he is still capable of screaming, although doesnt cause he realized that screaming is stupid.


ive never listened to fall out boy.

[banky]

Ill let Trogg or Rev have this one. Thier pwning skills > mine.

[deep]

I don't think Fall Out Boy is bad. I mean their music isn't anything spectacular but I can at least listen to it and not want to kill myself unlike most things that I hear on the radio or see when my roomate is watching MTV. I think I may even have a copy of their older CD around here someplace. I think there was one song I liked but I don't remember the name of it.
As for avenged sevenfold I can't stand them. I have a couple of their songs on CD's or something. I think one of their songs might have been one of those ones that mysteriously added itself to my ITunes. I just think their music sucks, and as for their appearence they try <i>way</i> too hard.

[HOMERCHESTRA]

Oh, and I love their stage names.


Ahem.

"M. Shadows," "Zacky Vengeance," "Synyster Gates," "Johnny Christ," "The Reverend Tholomew Plague."

Bastard fucker stole my Reverend prefix.

[Charnye West]

He's "THE Reverend" and you are just "Reverend."

[exemplary citizen]

Oh, and I love their stage names.


Ahem.

"M. Shadows," "Zacky Vengeance," "Synyster Gates," "Johnny Christ," "The Reverend Tholomew Plague."

Bastard fucker stole my Reverend prefix.
Jesus, these guys sound like a bunch of psychobilly douchebags just with their names. What the fuck. I'm tired of this "OMG EXTREEEEEEEEEEEME BADASSERY OVERLOAD" horseshit. If the music can't stand on its own, snappy nicknames aren't going to cover up for that.

[HOMERCHESTRA]

Zacky Vengence and Synyster Gates are the worst. At what point in time did "Synyster Gates" sound badass? You can't even use the campy card on that because it's fucking stupid.

[Rasputin]

going by the information you've given i'll recommend ben folds, knowing that you've probably already heard him.

Which is funny because I've never heard of him in my life. The UK music scene is subtly different to the US scene as far as I can tell since we seem to go more for the 'scraggly-haired boys from council estates in T-shirts and jeans singing about their girlfriends leaving them' than the 'spiky-haired heavily-tattooed jerks screaming at the top of their lungs about breaking stuff' that seems to be all the rage in the states. There's more of a 'garage-band' mentality in the UK than the 'lone singer with a guitar' mentality that I've noticed is a little more pervasive in the US. That said, I'll check out this guy Folds and Ami's "Eels". For some reason I tend to prefer bands to individual singer/songwriters, at least in my mind.

I do want to look into more obscure bands, really, since whenever I hear music anywhere I wish my ears to implode to keep out the badness. But I've no idea how to look for music since...well...no one's ever really told me how. Rasputina was just another recommendation and the one band from my goth phase that I can hand-on-heart say didn't suck, and even them I've tired of somewhat. I don't just want to listen to 'stuff like Radiohead', I want to expand my horizons, actually have a portfolio of other's music to call 'my taste'. But I've no idea how.

[MST3Kakalina]

Both suck a tall frosty one something fierce. If I have to pick the greater of two evils, I pick Fall Out Boy because I hear their shitty music the most.

[HOMERCHESTRA]

There's more of a 'garage-band' mentality in the UK than the 'lone singer with a guitar' mentality that I've noticed is a little more pervasive in the US.

That's funny, because I've never noticed that at all and I live here. And am very active in the music scene. And don't know how to make no gramatical sense.

[t3]

Rasputin, check out www.pandora.com It's like a radio station where you type in a song/artist, and it tracks down songs similar in style. And, each song that plays you can give at "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" to fine-tune the selections each "station" plays. Also, it's free. Can't beat that with a stick.

Otherwise, here's a few artists I rather take a liking to (all are extra obscure for your convenience):
Voltaire- he's a single artist, which I know you just said you don't particularly cotton to, but he's one of the few musicians I've ever heard who can be angsty without being irritating, as well as do comedic songs that are neither parodies of well known pop culture stuff, NOR do they invovle reference to bodily functions. He's also got a band called "The Oddz," though I've never actually heard them so I can't say much. Be a dear and check them out and report back to me, kay?
Crush 40- formed by Sega's sound director Jun Senoue and vocalist Johnny Gioeli from a band called Hardline. Some of their songs are taken directly from video games like Sonic Adventure and EA Sports NASCAR, but they have a bunch of original/obscure things on their first album, too.
Blind Melon- As far as I know, they are a fairly obscure band from the early 90's who made 1 album before their lead singer died of a drug overdose. I haven't heard a whole lot by them, but what I have heard sounds okay so far.
Powerman5000- stupid name, yes, and this group is really a mixed bag as far as I'm concerned. I like the fact that they have heavy-metal sounding music that includes actual lyrics (other than "BLAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!") but some of their stuff sounds very techno-ey in a way that is not to my liking.

[Shaman King]

Um, Blind Melon doesn't count as obscure. "No Rain" got massive amounts of radio play, and still does.

[t3]

Well, I don't listen to the radio, (except of course for Prarie Home Companion) so I wouldn't know.

[HOMERCHESTRA]

Haha, Powerman 5000. "Hey look, I'm Rob Zombie's nephew, give me a recording contract."

Worlds Collide was like the gayest song on the Tony Hawks 2 soundtrack.

[t3]

Man, Tony Hawk 2 was like the one Dreamcast game I wanted that I never did manage to find. (Well, except for Rayman 2 and Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolf, but you get the idea.) Much as Shadow the Hedgehog was a crime against video games and humanity in general, the one song they made for it was okay.

[KLEIN]

t3, if you haven't played Rayman 2. we can't be friends.

[Rasputin]

That's funny, because I've never noticed that at all and I live here. And am very active in the music scene. And don't know how to make no gramatical sense.

Sorry, that was a bit of an over-generalisation. It might just be a Southern Oregon thing, since that's the one part of the US I've been to (and will NEVER SET FOOT IN EVER AGAIN thankyouverymuch). The sound of someone twanging on their light orange, un-amped guitar is one that actually grates on my nerves, which is doubly annoying since my brother's taken up the habit now he's been stranded in my parent's house after breaking his leg up a mountain in Africa, the idiot. It just makes me think...Dawson's Creek. The mental imagery, it's horrifying...

Anyway, thank you for the station, Koba! I shall listen!

[MST3Kakalina]

the hell did i recommend to you? that was t3.

but that's okay. i'll just save the thanks for a time when i REALLY do something for you. =P

PS also Phish is awesome but if you don't like jambands then it's probably not your thing.

[Rasputin]

Gack, realized just now there's two people with mst3k in their names.

...

It's been a while!

T3! Thank YOU for the link.

[SLUM WIZZARD]

fall out boy is bad but kinda catchy for a while, avenged sevenfold is bad but i cant even begin to like it in any way shape or form (and considering i generally do like metal, that's saying something). also, fall out boy doesnt reek "image" quite as much as a7x does, despite them both being mainstream. not saying they dont, but a7x has the mascara and black look down to a point where green day probably getting jealous.

falloutboy: bad and catchy
avenged sevenfold: bad and guys in mascara

im gonna have to go with fall out boy there

A7X's first album was good.
if by good you mean how well they mimic scream verse/sing chorus/scream verse unoriginal mainstream metalcore while mamaging to keep thier songs almost completely unmemorable at the same time then you might be right but if you mean that in any other way i might have to beat you senseless

[HOMERCHESTRA]

Sorry, that was a bit of an over-generalisation. It might just be a Southern Oregon thing, since that's the one part of the US I've been to (and will NEVER SET FOOT IN EVER AGAIN thankyouverymuch).

Haha, yeah, Southern Oregon is pretty much the polar opposite to Northern Oregon. Southern Oregon is all flat and full of volcanic soil so all that grows are those scraggly birch trees and stuff. Also, it's full of hicks. Were you in Ashland or Bend or something? Come to Portland if you want to see how civilized Oregonians live.

[Adnama]

My little sister loves Fall Out Boy, so whenever it's playing I either have the option to subject myself to the few songs I can actually tolerate or move to the other side of the house so as not to hear it. I've only listened to Avenged Sevenfold once, and I can't even remember how they sounded. My cousin brought her CD over and told me it was good so I go "sure, put it in". We start talking and the music that is actually playing VERY loudly just kinda...fades into the background. All I remember is that it was noisy and repetitive. I was hardly aware when a track ended and another began.

[HOMERCHESTRA]

Frances the Mute!

[MST3Kakalina]

if by good you mean how well they mimic scream verse/sing chorus/scream verse unoriginal mainstream metalcore while mamaging to keep thier songs almost completely unmemorable at the same time then you might be right but if you mean that in any other way i might have to beat you senseless

ell oh ell

[Zootch]

voltaire's good, i saw mtv label him as a goth rocker

wooah yeah but cynicalness aside, its pretty well written music.

[Rasputin]

Haha, yeah, Southern Oregon is pretty much the polar opposite to Northern Oregon. Southern Oregon is all flat and full of volcanic soil so all that grows are those scraggly birch trees and stuff. Also, it's full of hicks. Were you in Ashland or Bend or something? Come to Portland if you want to see how civilized Oregonians live.

'twas Ashland, actually, where my ex-wife is...or was, I've no idea what she's up to now.

I'm sorry everyone, but I think I'll just stay away from the entire west coast. I've been cursed with bad luck before so I don't want to risk chance encounters.

And...Southern Oregon isn't flat, it's damn near vertical in places.

[HOMERCHESTRA]

Ah, well I've been to Bend, Ashland, and Klamath Falls, and those are pretty much flat in comparison to Northern Oregon. And don't knock Oregon untill you've been to the better parts, man.

[t3]

voltaire's good, i saw mtv label him as a goth rocker

wooah yeah but cynicalness aside, its pretty well written music.

I haven't watched MTV since they cancelled "Cartoon Sushi," but I heard he was once described by some media outlet or other as "Weird Al for the coffin crowd." Understandably, this is not something he cottons to much.