Drugz: RELOADED (now with more toxicity!)

[Forever Finite]

represent, my niggers.


also, talk about your dreams. REM or otherwise.



<small>current toxicity: 0%, but totally cough free! ;)

[Fistsetsfire]

The first thing I saw when I brought up the board page - before I could even log in - was "DRUGZ: RELOADED!!" ... and suddenly, I felt at home again. You rock, Rachel.

What are we even supposed to be posting about, what we've been doing lately? I've been kickin' it with rolls and mushrooms lately. As Rhonda may have mentioned, Ohio went Ubergay and banned salvia, although that hasn't stopped me much since I have about three hits left from a stash I got last weekend. Many ridiculous stories resulted from it, I assure you. I hit some DMT a few week-ends ago at a Boombox concert; of course that was fun. Really, my only (actually, my "on-going") gripe right now is the fact that I haven't been able to find any acid since November. Even my most supreme of SuperConnects haven't been able to find shit since somebody got busted with <I>26 sheets</I> a while ago. It's been sad, but ... unless someone wants to mail me a birthday card (wink, wink), I'll just have to hold out hope for another day.

And, of course, the green is good. The green is great. It always is. I couldn't buy any last week, but tomorrow's payday for me, so it's all gravy. I was at a headshop the other week ago, and they've got these smoking apparatuses now that apparantly force a hit into your lungs through the use of a tiny electric fan. People say it gets you ripped as fuck, but I'm not sure I see the point in spending $50 for (inherantly) a hand-held bubble blower with a metal bowl head. I forgot to ask because I wasn't here! How was everyone's 4.20? (Almost a month later, right?) I had a ridiculously horrible "Saturday Before" that probably goes into the records as one of my worst days ever, but my "Day Of" was pretty sweet. I spent the night rewatching those old Dilbert cartoons from 1999. It was nostalgic.

Dreams: I can't remember my dreams anymore. I remember them shortly after I wake up, and just like that they're gone. If I had to guess, I'd say they're about making money I don't have, driving cars I can't afford, and casting magic spells that I don't have enough experience or MP to cast with. Such is the cruelty of real life.

Speaking of "cruel real life", 0% Toxicity also. No coughs to take care of, no cats to tranquilize, Uncle Sam won't hit me; no fun[gai] at all. That's how I roll: Not at all. Fuck Tuesdays.

[steffi]

seeing as I'm in Japan, I'm almost drunk all the time.

though also not right now. :/

[Retard Girl]

i bought some salvia a few weeks ago, went home, and then realized i had nothing to smoke it with and haven't had the time to head to a city to buy a water pipe.


i haven't smoked it before, i got 10x stuff, should i get a sitter when i get the pipe?

[Shaman King]

i haven't smoked it before, i got 10x stuff, should i get a sitter when i get the pipe?i like that sentence because it makes me think of a storewhere you can just walk in and pick up a trip sitter off the shelf

[retardedfaggot]

Been mostly messing with DXM lately since it's so damn cheap. Just a matter of time before my stomach starts rejecting the ccc's and I start vomiting at the sight of them again.
Had some cocaine from a dealer I met at school. It was neat.
Haven't been drunk in a few days, but trying mushrooms this weekend.

I've been getting better and better at remembering my dreams. Writing them helps and leaves me with some sort of lucid feeling for a while.

[t3]

Had a dream: All I remember is there was a large, rhino-like creature rampaging outside. For some reason in the dream I knew it to be the earliest mammalian predator, something that went extinct millions of years ago. (For the record, I'm not a paleontologist and I have no idea what the earliest mammalian predator actually was. Probably just a rat or something. Anyway.)
It was running all around, attacking whoever/whatever it saw. I evaded it narrowly a few times I think, and at one point, I hid in a cellar. Way in the back of the cellar was a pregnant cat lying on the floor.
I go back to the cellar door and a window in the door to see creature run by, it spots me but is preoccupied with whatever it's chasing outside, so it only rams to door half-heartedly with it's horn as it goes by. After it passes, I run out the door to seek a new escape route, since it saw me hiding there. I look back and see the creature return, apparently having given up on it's previous target and watch it obliterate the door to the basement I was hiding in.

...

At some point, realizing the only way to be able to kill it is by shooting it's mouth when it's open, as it's outer skin is so hard it's invulnerable to just about any attack. I don't know whether I ever actually shot it or what, from there on I start to forget everything.

My guess: too much RE5 before bed.

[Chakan]

My guess: too much RE5 before bed. That will do it. :p Great game, btw.

I can't remember the last few dreams I have, but I usually recall my dreams pretty well. Some of that is because I used to maintain a dream journal, which really does help you remember them better like Vulpine mentioned.

[Davey Rootbeer]

i had a dream where i wasn't chained to a desk of neverending tasks once. i was in an open field, and everything was beautiful.

then i got several of those pop-up messages from outlook in the corner of my dream demanding more work.

i woke up crying.

[implode]

got about 40 mg's today and i brilliantly did them all before work instead of saving some. gonna be a great night. :robot:

[Vile]

Guys, 2c-e and 2c-i, seriously.


Seriously, you guys.

[exemplary citizen]

I wanna know more about these research chemicals you speak of

[Dr. Badman]

You faggots better keep this shit out of con.

[töm]

vile it sounds like you have fallen in with the wrong crowd.

[töm]

bad man don't you know that the majority of humankind only enjoy life by forgetting that they are alive?

[Fistsetsfire]

Tom is absolutely right! I have no idea if I'm conscious!

...

Wait. Stubbed mah toe. I'm conscious. Damn it.

[Dr. Badman]

It's just young people, and they usually grow out of it.

[trog]

bad man don't you know that the majority of humankind only enjoy life by forgetting that they are alive?

thats because life is suffering



also like my job now has periodic drug tests soi dont even try to do anything. sorry friends!

[KLEIN]

I don't have a job

[töm]

that's some bullshit right there, what kind of job do you have that they don't want you to use drugs?

[trog]

one that is run by mormons but pays nicely and i would like to keep

[töm]

mormons oh lord what have you gotten yourself into.

[trog]

i'm capable of being very polite and tolerant which is all they really ask of me, although it pains me greatly down inside

[KLEIN]

Trogg please let us know when you are planning to quit so we can help you quit in the best possible manner

[trog]

i cant think of anything i can do to these people that's worse than what their religion has already

[trog]

i'm only just a little bit jaded.

[implode]

You faggots better keep this shit out of con. hahahhahahah

[Retard Girl]

i like to imagine implode as laughing that in a meglomaniacal cartoon way, twiddling his fingers in a big old chair.

[t3]

i like to imagine implode as laughing that in a meglomaniacal cartoon way, twiddling his fingers in a big old chair.

and sort of bouncing around in the chair, rocking it this way and that. You can hear the thing squeak and groan with each successive impact of his ass to the chair. Maybe something sounds like it snapped or caved in a bit, I dunno. I like to think the shock would carry and cause something on a nearby desk to fall to the ground with a clatter, and maybe a glass of water he has handy is spilling over a bit.

[t3]

Basically: If you're gonna imagine shit while I'm around to hear about it, you better be prepared to imagine that shit in detail.

[Dr. Badman]

Implode the only high you'll be getting at con is when I lift you up by the throat and throw you out of a window.

[KLEIN]

I'll ban you

[Fistsetsfire]

Yeah, I mean what's with all this hate all of a sudden. Where's the love, man?

...and by "love", I mean Cory's gonna shank yo ass in the yard, son. Shit is <I>real.</I>

[Fistsetsfire]

Double Post. I don't care. I found something hilarious, perfect for moments of drug-induced retardedness. David Firth - a long time favorite animator of mine - did a cartoon a while back called "Sock Episode 1" (http://www.fat-pie.com/sock.htm)(which you might want to watch first to get the upcoming reference). YTMND picked up on it, and created this retarded (http://tehrusianlaughroom.ytmnd.com/) single serving site.

I might be the only one that actually finds this amusing. :robot:

[trog]

Implode the only high you'll be getting at con is when I lift you up by the throat and throw you out of a window.

ahahahaha

[DOOKIE!]

bad man don't you know that the majority of humankind only enjoy life by forgetting that they are alive?

It's just young people, and they usually grow out of it.


i don't agree. at least for me personally, with psychedelics, i've got to be in a healthy state of mind to enjoy a trip. and it's not an escape or a way to avoid facing things, any more than an actual physical vacation to somewhere new. it's just a temporary way to enhance what's going on and look at things differently. i don't see how that, in itself, is a bad thing. i mean if it's not for you, that's fine, but i don't see the point of judging others for getting something out of it.

[exemplary citizen]

I take drugs to remember that I'm alive :(

[töm]

i don't agree. at least for me personally, with psychedelics, i've got to be in a healthy state of mind to enjoy a trip. and it's not an escape or a way to avoid facing things, any more than an actual physical vacation to somewhere new. it's just a temporary way to enhance what's going on and look at things differently. i don't see how that, in itself, is a bad thing. i mean if it's not for you, that's fine, but i don't see the point of judging others for getting something out of it.lol i mean mostly narcotics. psychedelics are the bees' knees. i read this great book called "the pursuit of oblivion," which is a global history of narcotics and it makes some witty observations, though it's mostly on opiates. it has a great chapter on chloral though and industrial revolution-era entire towns who would just chloral themselves and pass out and repeat as soon as they woke again. i think the author's observation was, "in their defense, there was, in fact, not much to live for in these industrial towns anyway."

[trog]

I take drugs to remember that I'm alive :(

i take drugs to forget i'm alive

[implode]

"the pursuit of oblivion" lol

quick, somebody give me a good reason to not be a drug addict

[Forever Finite]

hard to take judgements seriously when they are based on zero experience.

as for dreams, i've been having a lot of really interesting lucid dreams and all-around intense dream weirdness again lately.

toxicity: a jovial 10% buzz DXM and some rum

[Mias]

i've been having nothing but moving, friend, and moosecon dreams since finals week started.

[trog]

lol

quick, somebody give me a good reason to not be a drug addict

you may die

then again you may die from anything so w/e

[Fistsetsfire]

Well then. Way to win that argument, Koba.

What if I sold Cory infinite life pills? They're filled to the brim with magical ingredients that <I>guarantee</I> you'll never die if you take 'em. They may also say "Advil" on them, but at $20 a pop I promise to promise you anything.

[implode]

you may die

then again you may die from anything so w/e yeah pretty much

i am genuinely open to hearing arguments about this since i have yet to ever meet anyone with a convincing argument as to what's actually so bad about drug addiction

[trog]

i know a hardcore catholic dude who talks a bunch about how addiction is a sign of weakness and we shouldnt have things that make us happy in life that easily because we'll appreciate the other things in life that make you happy less but i think he's full of shit because hes never even touched a drop of alcohol

[exemplary citizen]

i am genuinely open to hearing arguments about this since i have yet to ever meet anyone with a convincing argument as to what's actually so bad about drug addiction

how about it costing a lot of money to maintain? that seems like a pretty good deterrent.

[Dr. Badman]

quick, somebody give me a good reason to not be a drug addictBecause going to gaol or harming yourself and potentially others isn't worth it.

[KLEIN]

because it makes your entire life revolve around having and getting drugs, and because your shit is totally ruined when you can't get them

[KLEIN]

Also iain the argument that you might go to jail is just about the worst argument. Why is it bad enough to be illegal in the first place?

[Chakan]

Why is it bad enough to be illegal in the first place? The argument really isn't about whether it should be illegal or not, but that since it is, you can and possibly will go to jail. Going to jail on drug related charges is pretty much the worst, and depending on where you are, they tend to nail you hard for that shit. If jail isn't enough of a deterrent, most jobs require drug screening. Cory has found ways around that, but there's a good chance that one of these days he'll be caught. Arguing about legality means squat given current reality.

That said, if Cory wishes to buy and use recreational drugs, I don't see any reason to convince him not to. It's his time and money.

[DOOKIE!]

know what else takes up a lot of time and money? owning a horse. i say we outlaw the fuckers!!!


as far as the illegal issue goes, i'd like to know how many nay-sayers here would give up sex if it was outlawed. i mean, unless you had a prescription because you're trying to conceive, obviously.

[Chakan]

as far as the illegal issue goes, i'd like to know how many nay-sayers here would give up sex if it was outlawed. i mean, unless you had a prescription because you're trying to conceive, obviously. Sodomy used to be illegal, and so is bestiality, but that doesn't stop anyone. :p

[KLEIN]

missing the point, chakan.

[t3]

I gave up sex without them having to outlaw it.

Oh god you guys I hear Korean in my head when I'm tuning out.

[Dr. Badman]

My point is entirely based on consequences, Klein. I haven't tried anything but alcohol, so I can't really judge beyond that apart from the generic "drugs are bad" stuff I'm taught. I don't think being in possession of or using drugs is worth the potential consequences.

As for my earlier point with growing out of drug use, I guess it's also to do with being a more responsible person with more responsibilities, which is usually a natural part of growing up.

Dookie's points don't really make sense so I don't know if I'm supposed to laugh at or counter them. :0

[implode]

how about it costing a lot of money to maintain? that seems like a pretty good deterrent. but if it were a good deterrent then wouldn't it even itself out on its own? a system cannot be maintained if the effort you're putting in isn't producing worthwhile returns. lots of things cost a lot of money to maintain, some worth it, some not. i happen to think that feeling amazing all the time is worth my money.

Because going to gaol or harming yourself and potentially others isn't worth it. klein is entirely correct, the jail argument doesn't work because you could apply a severe set of consequences to any arbitrary thing and make it seem less worthwhile. you have to prove why having your freedom taken away from you is the next logical step from acquiring and ingesting a drug to make that a fair argument. but even if you're not interested in being fair, i would say the vast number of international drug users sort of rebuffs that argument on its own.

you can harm yourself relatively easily in probably over 50% of recreational activities, so i don't think that's specific just to drugs. ever hear the expression "no pain, no gain"? anyway the likelihood of harming yourself on the drugs i do is so small that it's certainly outweighed by the benefits. as for harming others, i'd love to hear examples of how that could be accomplished by putting a substance in my body that makes me feel good.

because it makes your entire life revolve around having and getting drugs, and because your shit is totally ruined when you can't get them we've talked about this before but since this is a public forum i'll respond - this is probably the best argument i've heard, as it plays on human curiosity of the unknown - the whole "what am i missing by dedicating my life to this?" situation. but, again, it seems to me this must happen to everyone who dedicates their lives to ANYTHING, be it a career, woman, hobby, etc. some of these are more flexible than others, and admittedly drug addiction is one of the more rigid ones in terms of time spent, but the mere thought of what i might be missing isn't worth giving up what i already have.

the "shit being totally ruined" argument is the most interesting one, and one that can only be understood from the perspective of someone on the inside, i think. if i tell you that yes, the "highs" (so to speak lol) of being a drug addict are so vivid and worthwhile that they're worth the time spent feeling shitty then you are well within your rights to call me crazy, because you can't fathom the feeling. but maybe i can put it in a different perspective - in your case, moosecon. ever wonder why we call it moosecon "withdrawal"? if you could get the feeling you get from moosecon 5 times a week, would it be worth dealing with the withdrawal for the other 2?

[MST3Kakalina]

Well then. Way to win that argument, Koba.
um i haven't posted at all in this thread.

current toxicity 0% but i'm pretty fucked up from not sleeping at all last night. not leaving clubs until 5 am = win.

[KLEIN]

if you could get the feeling you get from moosecon 5 times a week, would it be worth dealing with the withdrawal for the other 2?

yeah but I mean


imagine how much moosecon would suck (relatively speaking), if you were going through your drug withdrawal. An admittedly weak argument.


The 5 days a week moosecon/drugs wouldn't work, the 'high' would return to a normal level but the withdrawal would still be real? But this is a point have to agree to disagree on, I guess.

[DOOKIE!]

Dookie's points don't really make sense so I don't know if I'm supposed to laugh at or counter them. :0

fair enough. i'm gonna chime in just one last time, and make a sincere effort not to be a smarty-pants dick, which i have a habit of doing on occasion.

first, statistics show that no matter how severe the legal consequences, punishment doesn't work as a deterrent. second, as far as drug users being a safety risk to others, no one here is arguing that DUI or public intoxication should be legal, so i really don't view that as a counter-point. third, let's deal with the "it's just plain old bad for you" thing once more. we can even go the disease route if you want; i'm not going to nit pick. how many girls did you go to school with who have an eating disorder? that's something which is definitely a behavior-choice illness, and has a lot of similarities with why some people start to experiment with drugs (insecurities, friends encouraging them to do it, an outlet due to family pressure)... it seems ridiculous that we would ever get to the point that you would lock up in jail a bulemic person for their behavior, and brand them with a life-long public reputation for what they do to themselves. the consequences of bulemia or anorexia can be mild (kind of like with pot use), or it can lead to permanent damage and death (like cocaine or heroine), and it's an issue that the person deals with for their entire life. it doesn't just "go away" as an experimental phase. so in that way, i guess it's actually different than smoking pot for a few college years.

i'm not pro-drug abuse by any means, and i really feel that there should be more resources available for helping people who need it. my problem with the system is that it fails to recognize that people like dr badman are in an extremely small minority; the past 3 US presidents have used drugs, and yet the administration still carries out their witch hunt for the unfortunate devil people who arent as lucky in getting away with their curiosity. i've worked with children who have permanent brain damage from huffing gas, and it's a pathetic sight, trust me. but it really drives home the point that no matter what you do to control the problem, it's going to happen if someone wants it to.

[t3]

yeah pretty much

i am genuinely open to hearing arguments about this since i have yet to ever meet anyone with a convincing argument as to what's actually so bad about drug addiction

Oh oh shit I got it Cory remmmber that guilt-trip Truth ad with the grandma sitting in a room, alone and forsaken, with a clock ticking in the background, sadly waiting for her no-good grandson to arrive and partake in the goddamn Valhalan feast she's prepared but he won't because he's high someplace.

Fun fact: I initially mistyped 'clock' as 'cock' and I wonder if leaving it as such wouldn't have made this post 1,000 times better.

[Fistsetsfire]

lol. I believe it would've been 7,000 times better, actually.

I may never have seen that ad, but I can already say it's misleadingly overexaggerated. If I'm out getting high somewhere, and Grandma's at home preparing me an extravagant feast, you'd best believe I'm gonna fly mah ass <I>home</I>! Screw a measly bag of Munchies, Grandma's got a feast of epic proportions going on. There's not one honest person out there that would believe a stoner can get so high that they forget about food. It just can't happen.

[t3]

Also:

gaol

What the fuck?

[KLEIN]

australian for jail

[Dr. Badman]

*ENGLISH for jail.

Might reply to Cory later.

[retardedfaggot]

Had a pretty neat Salvia trip. Was scared that I would never return to my home and that I was stuck in a dimension of infinite teal and white horizontal lines. Started mumbling to myself and then I got up and ran into the door (which was locked). Was looking at a pillow I was holding.
Bought some xanies for tomorrow. :3

[implode]

imagine how much moosecon would suck (relatively speaking), if you were going through your drug withdrawal. An admittedly weak argument. lol "imagine"

[KLEIN]

:robot:

[implode]

Had a pretty neat Salvia trip. Was scared that I would never return to my home and that I was stuck in a dimension of infinite teal and white horizontal lines. Started mumbling to myself and then I got up and ran into the door (which was locked). Was looking at a pillow I was holding.
Bought some xanies for tomorrow. :3 where are you geographically? if you like xanies i got the mad hookup, i fucking hate them so of course they're basically erupting out of every oriface.

[retardedfaggot]

I live in Edinburg, TX. It's practically Mexico.

[implode]

oh shit nevermind

[retardedfaggot]

:'[

[Vile]

Oh oh shit I got it Cory remmmber that guilt-trip Truth ad with the grandma sitting in a room, alone and forsaken, with a clock ticking in the background, sadly waiting for her no-good grandson to arrive and partake in the goddamn Valhalan feast she's prepared but he won't because he's high someplace.

Fun fact: I initially mistyped 'clock' as 'cock' and I wonder if leaving it as such wouldn't have made this post 1,000 times better.

oh fuck that mental image is going to bother me until I DIE :(

[t3]

Huh. I guess those guys deserve credit where credit is due. Here I'm just describing an ad that hasn't been on in like 5 years and people are successfully guilt tripped by it. Wellllll played sirs.

Actually I don't think it was a Truth ad now that I think of it all those morons ever talk about is the incredible revelation that cigarettes are- get this- bad for your health.

[MST3Kakalina]

yeah because the problem with cigarettes is that people don't know they're bad for you

[t3]

Yes thank you Koba

[MST3Kakalina]

speaking of which, i'm pretty sure i'm going to come home from korea with a terrible smoking habit.

but hey smoking a pipe is pretty cool so it's all good.

[Dr. Badman]

nooo

[MST3Kakalina]

PUFF PUFF

PUFFFFF

[KLEIN]

I don't do drugs

[exemplary citizen]

speaking of which, i'm pretty sure i'm going to come home from korea with a terrible smoking habit.

but hey smoking a pipe is pretty cool so it's all good.

sweeet. didja get yourself a nice dr. grabow, or what? I wish I could take up pipe-smoking, but I don't think my husband would approve. pipe smoke smells so much nicer than cigarettes though, they're hardly the same thing.

also: post pics of you smoking a pipe

[KLEIN]

except for alcohol sometimes

and sugar often but does that count

[Fistsetsfire]

... also: post pics of you smoking a pipe

Damn it, Ami! I'd totally be down. :( Wouldn't yeh know it, though, the digital camera I bought off EBay for $5 was a total piece of shit, and I still haven't been able to pawn it off on any unsuspecting victims.

Listen to me talk. I wouldn't voluntarily post a picture of myself as normal, but the instant a chance to do something incriminating comes along, I'm all for it. What are "priorities", anyway?

Way back when, a buddy of mine and me packed a pipe with half tobacco, half weed, and we cleared that thing in less than 5 minutes. I remember it being one of the most excruciating headaches I've ever had in my entire life. The lesson learned here: Never be a high school freshman. Skip right on to sophomore year, it might work out better.

[steffi]

this thread sucks

next time I hang out with one of you, let's roll up a fat one and chill with some wine coolers

[Fistsetsfire]

Which of any drug-related thread discussions hasn't sucked yet?

...asks the guy who's posted in every single one of them ...

[steffi]

good question. :/

[t3]

Come June, 2013, I expect one of you jerk faces to share me some illicit materials to celebrate the glorious end of my military commitment and the beginning of whatever dismally unsuccessful career I'll have embarked on by then.

[Awesome McManly]

I don't do drugs

liar. I bore witness to Klein smoking a joint. not that it helped anyones social skills that evening.

also, you guys play the fucking weirdest version of ass hole ever. at con we're gonna play again by Canadian rules. I find it a lot more fun.

[KLEIN]

Alright correction I don't like drugs and only under the most strident of peer pressure will reverse my policy

[trog]

life is awful regardless of whether or not you do drugs

[retardedfaggot]

When I'm on drugs, I feel like a kitten would if it watched television.

[Fistsetsfire]

Furry, and unable to understand English?

[retardedfaggot]

and easily annihilated in a blender.

[Fistsetsfire]

When innocent kittens watch television, vicious gangs of blender thugs attack. Black cats versus Black and Decker: The life and times of drugged-out Vulpine, coming up next on E! True Hollywood Stories.

[retardedfaggot]

I'd watch that.

[Young Jeff Bridges]

WOULD TOTALLY SMOKE A BOWL RIGHT NOW BUT ALL MY SHIT'S IN MY CAR TRUNK

[Fistsetsfire]

So, here's an interesting story for druggies and non-druggies alike. Saturday, I came into contact with a friend called "Purple Transformer". The thing about this friend was: He was actually in the shape of the Autobots symbol! These people with "friend" presses; how do they create intricate enough designs to do something like that? No matter what, it was great. We started this mosh pit in the middle of this huge hippie crowd. People were gettin' <I>pissed</I> - which made me laugh even more. Pat Downes (lead singer/guitarist of Badfish/Scotty Don't) got up at the end, and was like, "Remember, guys, this is a chill zone, not a kill everyone event." :D Gawd damn it was fun. So much, I say.

Where the hell are all my Midwest people at?? You people gotta come check this shit out with me some time! It's happening again in September. It honestly doesn't matter if you don't do drugs! Besides the fact that there were 3 kegs at our one site alone, plenty of sober people are there, and they have just as much fun as we do ... except we have the advantage of intensifying nature with melting technicolor and gridded visual kaleidoscopes.

... and "Sand Hanitizer." It's a long story. :robot:

Edit: John! Where've you been, man? I'll smoke some Diesel for you right now. I've got your back, yo.

[Young Jeff Bridges]

maybe i'll smoke a bowl right now

[steffi]

I kinda miss weed... :<

a month and ten days!

[DOOKIE!]

Where the hell are all my Midwest people at?? You people gotta come check this shit out with me some time!

i wanna party wif ya!!! gimme a heads up when you're out having fun next.

[Fistsetsfire]

But of course. I have no idea when that'll be, but ... yes! Eventually. Definately.

[DOOKIE!]

^ hey do you like ritchie hawtin? he's going to be in cleveland on 7/3 and i'm going if i dont have to work!

[implode]

toxicity: 100 mg of OC and actually looking forward to going to work for once

[Forever Finite]

toxicity: about 3 drinks and a dirty looks from my roommate/lover

[Vile]

toxicity: I've been sober for two weeks

[Fistsetsfire]

^ hey do you like ritchie hawtin? he's going to be in cleveland on 7/3 and i'm going if i dont have to work!


I have no idea who that is, but even so ... 7/3 is a Friday, and I work 2nd shift, therefore killing any opportunity to make an informal plan that day/night. Where's it gonna be at, though? Tower City Ampitheatre, QL Arena, House of Blues, [other]? No matter what, my upcoming activities Sunday night will empathize with you on how much parking sucks/will suck. (At least paying for it, anyway.)

Toxicity: Na-da. Haven't done jack shit in several weeks now. But, like I said, Sunday night's coming up quick, so I'm content for now.

[DOOKIE!]

it's at metropolis, and he's a techno dj. not techno like a mis-used term for any and all electronic music, but actual minimal techno. he was a big part of the whole detroit techno movement, and i nut major loads seeing him live. it's truely orgasmic.

[Fistsetsfire]

(Ah shit. A rave, huh? "Good times" will be had, I predict it.)

I've heard of Metropolis, but I have no idea where it is. I want to think it's in the flats, but I wouldn't know. Actually, I try to stay out of Downtown as much as possible because it's such a pain in the ass to navigate through. I tried to put my faith back in Downtown last year when I was trying to get to University Hospital ... during the construction of the Euclid corridor. A 10 minute drive from I-90 turned into a half-hour detour through every side street the east side ever shat on, which pretty much killed it for me.

Griping about Cleveland is so much more fun when someone actually knows what you're talking about.

[retardedfaggot]

Had a nice trip last night.

[Fistsetsfire]

Fantastic leading-to-nowhere post, Vulpine. How 'bout some detail? What, when, where, and were midgets involved?

[trog]

vulpine has mastered the art of saying absolutely nothing and being as boring as possible

[DOOKIE!]

it's the west bank, over by the powerhouse place. so parking is actually pretty easy to find, and getting in/out is not a problem. the streets by UH are like the absolute worst example ever! i used to have to drive over there all the time for work, and it's so frustrating. but if you decide to go, just tell me where you'll be coming from, and i can help try to steer you there easily. you prolly wont need help, though.

the venue itself is pretty awesome. it has a huge industrial warehouse feel to it, but it's more club atmosphere than rave, unfortunately. so expect super expensive drinks, dickhead security, and if you're going to skip the alcohol and find other ways to be unsober, you'll wanna byod. i'm sure there will be some stuff going around, but not like at a true party. and they'll charge you a few bucks for even just a plastic cup of water, and like $3 at least for a small cup of pepsi, so the place generally pisses me off. they make it expensive even if you're trying to do the responsible thing and be a designated driver. but despite all that, it'll be a fun night; you should really try to make it out!!!

[Fistsetsfire]

Nah, I'm not even going to attempt to go. It sounds fun, no doubt, but once 12:30 hits on a Friday, I'm all about going home and chillin' out after a week's worth of bullshit. Plus, at 12:30, the show will be just about over - if not over already, so there's not much of a point to drive out there just for that.

I should say "Friday's I 'normally' chill", except for today when I'm super twacked. I popped an Addy at 8, and before that had this new energy drink called Redline. Paige told me about it a few months ago that it was really, really potent, and today was the first time I've ever seen it in a store in Ohio, so I got one. One bottle is supposed to be like two 5-hour energy shots; I downed the whole thing in a minute. I was actually pretty disappointed in it. I expected to be extraordinarily tweaked; instead I was just slightly more awake and not hungry. Definately not worth the [almost] $4 I spent on it.

It's either Redline really is that shitty of an energy drink, or my tolerance is so outrageously strong that nothing can penetrate it anymore. In any case, I'm still riding the Addy, and this blunt I'm now finishing brings me to a comfortable toxicity level of roughly 65-70%. I didn't need to sleep today anyway. Fuck it.

[DOOKIE!]

over at 12:30 lolwuuuuuuuuuuut???? i'm not even sure he'll have come out at that point. and there are other decent dj's there that night, so dont write it off!!!

if the music doesn't tempt you, i'm pretty sure i can think of a thing or two that i might be able to bring to ensure a fun time will be had. wink wink.

[Mias]

well fist, after six ounces of the stuff i felt like a fucking tweaker child, but i guess it's not strong enough for everyone. sorry for disappointments i guess, but i don't even enjoy it. Just really wanted to stay awake one night and normal things with caffeine do nothing to me.

[Fistsetsfire]

lol. I doesn't blame you, I'm just griping about the fact that I paid $4 for something that disappointed me. I think maybe it <I>is</I> just the fact that "normal people caffeine ammounts" need to go triple for me. Why I don't have an ulcer yet, I'm not sure.

if the music doesn't tempt you, i'm pretty sure i can think of a thing or two that i might be able to bring to ensure a fun time will be had. wink wink.

You're making it really hard for me to say "no" here, yeh know that? :robot: I'll see what I can do.

[Fistsetsfire]

Ooo. Also: I thought this was appropriate for this thread. According to Rifftrax, drugs are like Lincoln Logs, guta cheese, the Magna Catra, the experience of not quite remembering someone's name at a high school reunion, but the guy didn't have a name tag, water, boxed elder bugs, heirloom tomatoes, Magilla Guerilla, breath-taking cliff formations of Southwest Creek, boats, some new techniques in arthroscopic surgery, braziers, shiny things, the presidency of Milard Filmore, a caulking gun, the foremost in Rock Macacks (not the Japanese Oresis Macacks), Tim Conway, and drugs. Drugs are like drugs.

[Forever Finite]

LOL



FIST I ASSURE YOU, RHONDA HAS SOME GOODIES THAT RE BETTER THAN CAFFEINE :) ;)

*representin'*
DONT ASK

[Awesome McManly]

Do you guys have Nos in the states? I find that stuff to be dangerously potent.

<img src="http://www.holley.com/data/products/pictures/medium36-380.jpg">

[t3]

Christ there was someone in my class who used to drink that shit. I always thought it looked like some kind of power-up in a video game.

[Fistsetsfire]

FIST I ASSURE YOU, RHONDA HAS SOME GOODIES THAT RE BETTER THAN CAFFEINE :) ;)

*representin'*
DONT ASK

I don't need to ask nothing. This entire week end since Friday afternoon has been nothing BUT the finest in ridiculocity. I know what's good over here. I don't need to share all them detailskis, just trust me. I'm still wasted, and I will ramble so bad, you'll wish i didn't ramble so bad at you. What.

[DOOKIE!]

you didn't go! :(


omg i met ritchie hawtin!!! too effed to talk about it at the moment...

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/aktion/action-smiley-078.gifhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/aktion/action-smiley-078.gif

[Fistsetsfire]

In my defense: I said "I'll see what I can do", not "for sure". I was too busy being sober driver last night because ... well, tonight won't be my night. I'm pretty sure if I stare at that chain of smilies long enough, I'll trick myself into thinking I'm effed up, too, because damn that's a lot of moving colors.

[ImWearingUrSkin]

re:drugz I'm in a drug rehab.

[Fistsetsfire]

Sucks, yo.

[ImWearingUrSkin]

naw, I don't really do drugs to begin with. I'm just there as a step between the state hospital and freedom. But I did get drug tested last week.

[Vile]

Tried dxm again recently. I became my bed. hmm.

[retardedfaggot]

Been doing DXM way too much. Love itt.

[Shaman King]

Tried dxm again recently. I became my bed. hmm.once when i took a lot of it i became the floor, and started yelling at people walking on the floor since they were stepping on me

then i realized that that was the point of being a floor, and i was filling my duty as a floor

then i giggled a lot

[Fistsetsfire]

The dissociative junkie in me takes pride in that story of ridiculousness, but the normal part of me still left laughs a lot because it really is that ridiculous.

[Awesome McManly]

I hada dream I went to moosecon with the fantastic four. somehow mr. fantastic got turned into a dozen bear claw donuts in the shape of his face. for a while we were deperately trying to reverse it somehow. then we eventually gave up and ate him. Also, the thing was made out of peanut clusters and captain crunch, he was delicious too.

...

I think I went to bed that night hungry or something.

lol. I believe Klein was all for eating the donuts throughout the entire dream, and we kept telling him to shut up cuz we had to find a way to turn him back. I remember him acting somewhat vindicated when we gave up and ate him.

dont remember much else.

[t3]

That sounds like Klein alright.

[Micah]

Tried dxm again recently. I became my bed. hmm.
oof. I've been done with DXM ever since I hit third plateau in an Ihop.
The only drugs I truly enjoy are weed, LSD, and shrooms.

[Fistsetsfire]

Now there's someone who know's what it's about!

... but, uh ... tell us more about this IHOP experience. I'm interested now.

[Micah]

Well I downed a family sized bottle of robitussin at around 3pm. Hung out with my friends for a while with a pleasant drunk feeling I got home at around six, smoked a couple bowls, and then went to Ihop with my mom (BAD CHOICE). While we were waiting for our food I realized that I was reaching the peak of my trip. Faces were distorting, my head felt super heavy, and I was having really paranoid thoughts. I wound up falling asleep on the table before our food came. Once it did, I took three bites before telling my mom that I was freaking out and needed to go home (I think I told her I took too much of my prescription benzos). I passed out as soon as I got home and my Mom took my pulse every hour. I woke up the next day and went to school still feeling the DXM. Everything was too fucking bright and i felt insane. I couldn't wait for it to get out of my system. At around 11 I finally started feeling normal again. I fucking HATE that shit. It's also put two of my friends in the hospital and one in a coma.

[t3]

Tried dxm again recently. I became my bed. hmm.

I thought 'became' read 'wet' for a moment. Really, that would have made for a more amusing piece of flash non-fiction.

[Fistsetsfire]

Tried dxm again recently. I wet my bed. hmm.

:D Way more fascinating.

a crazy story

Damn. On an 8 or 12oz? Either way, that'll fuck up some shit. At least you had a Benzo script to fall back on in front of your mom. All I ever pulled out the one time I was blaitantly caught fucked up was the "underage drunk" card - which didn't get me out of trouble, per se, but it didn't get the "zomg you're on drugs!" responce, either, so it was cool.

I had the sense enough (if you can believe it) to not do it in school, so I gotta ask: How'd you pull that shit off? I mean, how was it not extremely obvious to anyone?

[Vile]

someone you know was dumb enough to dex themselves catatonic? Well damn.

[retardedfaggot]

I did Robitussin at school once and ended up running out of class and vomiting on the way to the bathroom in front of some band girl. I chilled in the bathroom for awhile and walked to class and wrote down my experience. Smelled like chalk for the remainder of the day.

[Micah]

How'd you pull that shit off? I mean, how was it not extremely obvious to anyone?
Oh it WAS. Everyone in the restaurant was staring at me because I looked so crazed and was completely incoherent.

Oh and twelve ounce mixed with sprite.
<img src=http://www.itstrulyrandom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/purpledrank.jpg>

[Fistsetsfire]

That jpeg is disturbing, and how do you <I>not</I> go catatonic on a 12oz? There's at least 1100mg of dxm in a 12, and the supposed "lethal dosage" is at 1500, so it's pretty close. In fact, the more I think about your story about going into public afterwards, the more I [a] believe you've got balls for doing something like that, but [b] think you may be as stupid as me ... for doing something like that.

It's still going down in my Book of Crazy Shit Stories. It's a thick book by now, I assure you.

[Micah]

That jpeg is disturbing, and how do you <I>not</I> go catatonic on a 12oz? There's at least 1100mg of dxm in a 12, and the supposed "lethal dosage" is at 1500, so it's pretty close. In fact, the more I think about your story about going into public afterwards, the more I [a] believe you've got balls for doing something like that, but [b] think you may be as stupid as me ... for doing something like that.

It's still going down in my Book of Crazy Shit Stories. It's a thick book by now, I assure you.

I admit it was probably one of the stupidest things I've ever done. It happened right as I was getting introduced to the drug world and I was pretty naive back then. Thinking back at the dosage it may have been more like 800mg. I made a Bong out of the bottle the next day and smoked some shitty high school midis out of it (My first bong hit).

[Forever Finite]

HAHAA yeah....


you guys got your facts wrong. lol.

[Forever Finite]

btw, david and i have done 1g of dxm each together a few times. it's not anywhere near lethal.


but yeah, gotta not be going in public at that point!

[Forever Finite]

heh... one time i did over 600 mg and ended up having to go to work. it was pretty fucking scary, thought i would get fired for sure.

[t3]

Rachel if there's one thing that conservative media has to teach us it's that knowing facts is highly overrated. Baseless conjecture is always the way to go.

[KLEIN]

it's not anywhere near lethal.


Don't hold us to your superman standards

[Chakan]

If what fist says is right, the "lethal" dosage is 1500mg or 1.5 grams, not 1 gram. That explains why you could take that much and live. Now if you took 2 grams, you might die.

[Forever Finite]

try doing some research (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_dose.shtml) next time... erowid is a good place for info.

NOTE: 1500 mg is listed as a heavy dose. lethal dose is much higher.

although, if you happen to be one of those few enzyme deficient people, 400 mg would even kill you! but if you're smart you will have already used it in low dose to check dat shit.

[Chakan]

I wasn't claiming to be an authority on the subject, merely pointing out that what Fist was saying matched up with what you were saying, which was that 1 gram won't or shouldn't kill you.

[Fistsetsfire]

Hey. Hey. How are you gonna tell <I>ME</I> to do some research on Erowid like I've never been to that site before? I did a sloppy 3 second Google search on the contents of a 12oz and posted hurriedly. Notice how I said "around". Not being specific is my fail-safe method of not being liable for inaccuracies.

lethal dose is much higher.


Erowid says: 20,000mg. WTF? :takker?!: I tried to picture how many 12oz's it would take to equal 20,000mg of DXM, and I instantly wanted to rip out my stomach. I mean, can you imagine it? (More importantly, do you want to? I sure regret doing so.)

[Micah]

You wouldnt cough ever again.
<b><i>EVER. AGAIN.</i></b>

[Forever Finite]

I wasn't claiming to be an authority on the subject, merely pointing out that what Fist was saying matched up with what you were saying, which was that 1 gram won't or shouldn't kill you.

welp, i know david himself has gone over 1100mg several times, and there's dan carpenter....who always took high dose trips totalling 1500mg in a night. he later hanged himself, but that's another story. lol

[Forever Finite]

Hey. Hey. How are you gonna tell <I>ME</I> to do some research on Erowid like I've never been to that site before? I did a sloppy 3 second Google search on the contents of a 12oz and posted hurriedly. Notice how I said "around". Not being specific is my fail-safe method of not being liable for inaccuracies.



Erowid says: 20,000mg. WTF? :takker?!: I tried to picture how many 12oz's it would take to equal 20,000mg of DXM, and I instantly wanted to rip out my stomach. I mean, can you imagine it? (More importantly, do you want to? I sure regret doing so.)

haha, even with the powder, that's alotta gel cappin'. i can't imagine how unpleasant that would be. 1 gram sends my head spinning in disco flashing red and green, like a siren

[Fistsetsfire]

You wouldnt cough ever again.
<b><i>EVER. AGAIN.</i></b>


lol.

It's kind of like that one picture Rachel posted of that huge ass jar of pure. It would basicly be like jamming your head straight in and inhaling deep. Hey! Ever been to the psych ward? No? Well, here's 20g of Dex. Have fun with that.

[Forever Finite]

i've been there.... not exactly a holiday destination.

[Forever Finite]

my drugz didn't arrive today :(

i sad.

[Micah]

My main guy is out of business :(

[eqze]

Got high for the first time tonight :3

[Fistsetsfire]

... and, apparently, rising from the dead for the first time since forever ago. 'Sup?

I also am null on the toxicity levels. Actually, I have been since last month at the Offspring show. I've actually been too tired to go out and find shit lately; how lazy does that make me, honestly?

[Shaman King]

Got high for the first time tonight :3w@

[trog]

our lil man is growin up :3

[retardedfaggot]

DXM and little onions with my favorite person. :3

[Fistsetsfire]

Every time you burp, you'll trip harder and have stinky breath. Sounds awesome.

[Vile]

why is it that you get higher when you vomit?

[retardedfaggot]

I think knitting with almonds with the person you might love is the best feeling.
Oh, then some hot tea.

[Shaman King]

i think you might have a problem vulpine

[retardedfaggot]

Just kidding.

[DOOKIE!]

bump this shit up cuz i'm rolling with my homie at rachelcon!!!

:)

[Forever Finite]

363....


66*50363


OOPS NUM LOCK. FIRST TO DECODE THAT WINS CANDY

[Dr. Badman]

332376

Where's my candy?

[Shaman King]

lol....


oopimloli don't think our keyboards match up exactly

[Fistsetsfire]

I think knitting with almonds with the person you might love is the best feeling.
Oh, then some hot tea.

Doood! Me an' mah homies be knittin' wit da almonds all day everyday! We be like "Bust out da tea, bitches! U straight up trippin', son!"

... and then I shoot myself for hanging out with ignorant wigger scumbags that somehow think tea is cool.

I'm gonna finish rolling this double-length joint, kick back with some Floyd, and make this day fucking vanish. How is RachelCon going, btw? I kind of forgot y'all have been talking about that for a few weeks now.

[Forever Finite]

rhonda rocks my socks.

my heart is weeping in her absense. :(

[retardedfaggot]

I need to find a suitable day for RachelCon.

[Forever Finite]

rachelcon? more like fatcon. haha..ha... :(

[retardedfaggot]

I'm not fat. :[

[Fistsetsfire]

Your opinion of yourself doesn't count, Rachel. One's own opinion is never a valid fact. ... Unless it's mine in the case of my ugliness, which is more factual.

[retardedfaggot]

We're all beautiful.

[Fistsetsfire]

No matter what they say? Because seriously, words can bring me down, man.

[Fistsetsfire]

So, no one's said anything in this thread for a few days...

We had this wasted conversation last night about how it actually makes more sense to Rock 'n Roll all day, and party Every Night. You can't exactly "party" at work and not expect to get fired ... or arrested. Sometimes Rock 'n Roll is all that can make a hard day at work worth going through. It's at night, however, that the stress relief can begin - that the craziness can happen. Plus, if you're up all night partying *COUGH*, you can always use loud Rock ' Roll music to keep you awake during the day (maybe?). It works out well.

BTW: I'm sotally tober, ociffer.

[retardedfaggot]

Oh yeah, drugs!
Well, I had a big fight with someone I really thought I liked and did a whole lot of drugs.
Should I name them all? I shouldn't. It was a bad combination.

[Fistsetsfire]

"Oh yeah, drugs!", like this entire thread wasn't based upon it. :robot: lol.

Sorry to hear about the fighting. Hopefully it wasn't over something ridiculously hardcore.

[retardedfaggot]

Things are better. I did try some x, but I guess it just brought out some demons.
I did meet a whole lot of new people, though. They drank all of my wine. :C

[Fistsetsfire]

Aww. Sucks that you didn't like rolls. I wouldn't give it another try just yet. It's very likely that you just got some shitty rolls that were chock full-o-amphetamines and a tiny bit of MDMA. [Essentially, just a giddy Adderall - which I still like, but not for a "first time".] Next time, just get some Mali and fuck the filler. It'll last a little less time, but you'll be way more fucked and happy about it at that.

Hear that, Mali? We're planning on eating you, and then dancing for hours afterwards.

[Retard Girl]

um, im not made out of ecstasy. lol. i am not gonna get u high.

[Vile]

I think that I need to find some lsd and have a spirit quest by myself.

Not in traffic, either. Not this time.

[Fistsetsfire]

Well, you basicly opened the door with that post, you might as well tell us the story of why dropping hits "in traffic" is not a good idea.

[Vile]

Well, it was more dropping hits in the middle of a busy city and tripping balls while attempting to cross an intersection. Every car that passed left a trail so it appeared as though there were no spaces between the cars at all. So I just stood there for a long time.

[Fistsetsfire]

Heh. That sounds like quite the adventure.

[retardedfaggot]

Trying not to abuse DXM so much. Did quite a bit a few days ago and saw some vivid hallucinations for the first time. Most I've ever done and I still haven't been the same since. Also been drinking way too much because of a certain someone, but I'm also trying to change that. Got some xan bars to calm me down and I've been playing alot of music. Both really help.
Video games, too.

[Fistsetsfire]

Shit Xan-za-bar Island. I picked up on a shit ton of dank-ass stuff today that put this Thursday down as the greatest Thursday that ever existed. 4 grams of salvia, 4 hits, and 3ish bowls of Bubblegum <I>all</I> for $40. There will never be another time in history that I will ever say I got so many triptamines and weed for the cost of a single bag of B-sters. It's not even the week-end yet, and already I'm prepared to get severely faced in an instant. :D :D Fuck Friday! It's Saturday tomorrow because I said so, damn it. Why did I use all my vacation days so early??

[trog]

closing this thread because it's boring

[Awesome McManly]

posting in this thread because its closed. :cool:

[exemplary citizen]

posting in this thread while under the influence